Quote from: p00293 on May 13, 2023, 05:08:48 PMDude at the end of the day you're 5ft 3. You might just have to accept you're going to be bad at sports in return for the height you NEED to function normally in life. Quite frankly amateur sports isn't important next to being tall, and if you're bad at some irrelevant 5 a side football match it doesn't matter vs having the height you'll need to have any dating success.
I'm lengthening now (gnail - a weight bearing nail). There's good days and bad days, but even the bad days are always manageable. I'd say there's a constant 2-3/10 pain in the legs, more in the form of soreness, like if you worked them out too hard and had terrible DOMS the next day - that sort of "pain" is constant. From time to time it shoots up a bit - if you move the legs into a bad position, or during some clicking sessions - but it's never truly unbearable.
And whatever the pain is, it'll be nothing compared to the pain you'd suffer of living life as a 5ft 3 man.
Agree. At 5'3 there is no chance for a normal dating life. Would do the surgery asap after school and do 3 inches if I were you
Like 10 years ago very few people knew of this surgery now thanks to Turkish clinics and some US doctors who have been making tiktoks and going all over mainstream media it's ruined it for people who don't have good proportions after surgery.
This guy is 5'4 no way he will be able to look anything like a regular 5'9 guy without zoomers who know about LL calling him out. The time when people could get away with that is long gone.
Countdown to YouTube compilations of bad post LL proportion videos.
Quote from: 1team on May 14, 2023, 12:27:36 AMLike 10 years ago very few people knew of this surgery now thanks to Turkish clinics and some US doctors who have been making tiktoks and going all over mainstream media it's ruined it for people who don't have good proportions after surgery.
This guy is 5'4 no way he will be able to look anything like a regular 5'9 guy without zoomers who know about LL calling him out. The time when people could get away with that is long gone.
Countdown to YouTube compilations of bad post LL proportion videos.
Less than 1% of the population even knows this surgery exists.
Your post reads like those "the average zoomer is 6ft 1 and wearing lifts" autism posts, the root of which is way too much time spent on forums and not enough away from the computer.
Quote from: p00293 on May 14, 2023, 06:05:25 AMLess than 1% of the population even knows this surgery exists.
Your post reads like those "the average zoomer is 6ft 1 and wearing lifts" autism posts, the root of which is way too much time spent on forums and not enough away from the computer.
Amongst boomers I could believe and amongst poverty countries sure but no way in hell a larger percentage of younger people from wealthy nations are not at least aware of limb lengthening. They won't know detail but the knowledge it existing had spread massively in the last few years.
It's cope to think people on the street will see someone who used to be 5'4 go to 5'9 and think something isn't off. The general public are stupid but that is next level delusion.
Quote from: 1team on May 14, 2023, 06:52:32 AMAmongst boomers I could believe and amongst poverty countries sure but no way in hell a larger percentage of younger people from wealthy nations are not at least aware of limb lengthening. They won't know detail but the knowledge it existing had spread massively in the last few years.
It's cope to think people on the street will see someone who used to be 5'4 go to 5'9 and think something isn't off. The general public are stupid but that is next level delusion.
How often have you walked down the street, in the grocery store or whatever, and walked past a guy and think "he's had LL".
Yeah, that's right, never. And as someone who is on this forum you'd actually be more likely to notice than a normie.
You think people are aware of it but really it's just the circles you hang out in - likely here, and places like looksmax, and other redpill/blackpill places. It's like you probably search for LL videos on tiktok and then conclude "LL videos are all over tiktok", when all that's happening is you're seeing stuff you're specifically searching for.
Quote from: 1team on May 14, 2023, 06:52:32 AMIt's cope to think people on the street will see someone who used to be 5'4 go to 5'9 and think something isn't off. The general public are stupid but that is next level delusion.
You didn't do LL, did you?
Hi guys. Sorry for not answering earlier.
Quote from: TheDream on May 13, 2023, 02:38:18 PM
Otherwise it will affect both his grades at school and his LL negatively as it is too much at once. You don’t want to be rushing either to try and keep up with the other.
The thing is I am already behind all of this stuff. My grades are , I don't go out of my room and it feels like my life is not worth living. I want to have the strength to do the surgery, but I am so fking scared of what people will think, recovery time, athleticism (even though
Quote from: p00293 on May 13, 2023, 05:08:48 PMYou might just have to accept you're going to be bad at sports in return for the height you NEED to function normally in life. Quite frankly amateur sports isn't important next to being tall, and if you're bad at some irrelevant 5 a side football match it doesn't matter vs having the height you'll need to have any dating success.
p00293 is right in that aspect.)
It is just a lot to deal with and I don't know where to begin with, considering the fact that this could have all been prevented if somebody was paying attention that I was growing slower than my other siblings.
I am scared of the pain and don't know when it will be a good time to do it. I read a lot of good points for both doing it over the summer or just waiting after I finish high school. It is just easier said than actually deciding.
Moreover, regarding proportions, my arms are not long, so if I do the surgery I have to at least look normal. My tibia is also smaller, but I think the first surgery would be femurs as it is easier and I am not in a good mental and physical space to do tibia.
Thank you very much for all of your help, it really does mean a lot.
OK buddy I'm going to say a couple of things you may not like but it's time someone said it.
First of all, enough with the victim card. It's not helpful and only brings you back to this vicious cycle. What your parents should've done? Growth hormones? Even if you were given, it's hard to know exactly how much impact it would've had. But regardless, it doesn't matter anymore, that's in the past, and you can't do anything about it anymore. It's time to move on, and focus on what you can do right now to improve your life (and there is plenty, even without LL).
2 months isn't enough time to do LL. The lengthening alone takes about 3 months (could be even longer!) and then you're looking at a few more months of recovering (at least). It depends on a couple of factors (like which nail you use) but you should prepare for that. I assume doing it after high school makes a lot more sense then.
If you do that, and then go to collage / university - who is even going to know your pre LL height? Exactly, nobody. Moreover, I imagine you didn't walk with a megaphone to your school shouting your growth plates are closed, right? So you can always say you had a late growth spurt. Given your taller siblings, I'd be surprised if anyone will give this another thought. Another thing you should understand, and it becomes really clear as you get older - people don't really care about you whole that much. Everybody are full with their own insecurities and worry about themselves, not just you.
As for athleticism - no, he's not right about it. If you're not very athletic right now - don't expect to get better after LL, and if you are - you'll likely be athletic after LL as well. You should be prepared to lose some (!!!) athletic ability, but definitely not to the point that you can't be any good or enjoy sports.
As for the pain - I'm not going to tell you it's easy (both physically and mentally). I'd say, for most people - it's bad, but not as bad as you think. You do get pain killers to help, so it's not like you're suffering for many months nonstop. Most of the pain is in the first few weeks from the surgery itself, and then it gets a lot better. If you do run into muscle or nerve pain while lengthening, you're able to slow down to help you deal with it better.
Don't worry about your proportions too much. It's not to be dismissed entirely but it's definitely given a lot more importance (and obsession) pre surgery than it should. You should have a consultation with a doctor and they'll tell you whether they think you should do tibias or femurs. It's typically recommended to do femurs because it recovers faster and better, and you can gain more height. You can measure your wingspan if you're worried about it, but most likely it's fine.
I'll end by saying - LL is complicated and scary! We all felt the same way at some point, but as you learn about the process and about people who went through it - you're going to feel more comfortable with it (or decide it's not for you, which is also fine). If you're serious about changing your life and doing LL, it's time to put on the big boy pants, drop the victim card, and do the research. There is a lot of good information on this forum and on youtube, which is a great start. Good luck!
Quote from: SilentGhost on May 14, 2023, 12:03:13 PM
The thing is I am already behind all of this stuff. My grades are , I don't go out of my room and it feels like my life is not worth living. I want to have the strength to do the surgery, but I am so fking scared of what people will think, recovery time, athleticism (even though p00293 is right in that aspect.)
You need to face these fears/problems first. Building up your self esteem. As boys we need to face our fears and overcome them to gain self confidence and mental well being. That’s why I suggested talking to a therapist. Not because there is anything wrong with you or wanting to do LL. But as a help to try and face these mental battles like school, gym etc. and overcome them.
Avoiding facing these problems because it is scary / uncomfortable will only keep you feeling bad as you do not develop from the confidence of overcoming them
I am only saying this to you because I was exactly like you back then. So it is like talking to my younger self or to a younger brother.
You can do it. It is not hopeless. You just need to do a little bit every day. And not avoid. You need to build up your bravery if you one day want to do LL.
Quote from: harmless obedient tranny on May 14, 2023, 02:13:35 PM
As for athleticism - no, he's not right about it. If you're not very athletic right now - don't expect to get better after LL, and if you are - you'll likely be athletic after LL as well. You should be prepared to lose some (!!!) athletic ability, but definitely not to the point that you can't be any good or enjoy sports.
Depends how much you lengthen, soycuck. At this sort of height - well actually at any sort of height sub-6ft, you'd be better off lengthening an extra couple of centimetres even in the full knowledge that you're going to be crap at sports for the rest of your life. Because sports aren't important at all once you leave high school. I've not played a single second of any sport since graduating uni, and the overwhelming majority of normies at most will do gym. It's a very small minority that play sports, and if you have to give that up, it is what it is, height is more important than being able to play some amateur football or cricket etc.
So long as you can walk, run short distances, and go up and downstairs with no problem, that's 99% of what you'll be using your legs for in the 'real world'. Muh football, muh squatting etc isn't important, if it's a sacrifice that needs making, so be it.
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