About the quality of physical therapy in Greece

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I saw the diaries of three Giotikas patients in this forum.  Recently I learned that Greece is not good for physical therapy.  Of the three diaries, only one has succeeded without any problems.  Patients currently undergoing surgery also had some problems.  Is this a problem for personal health?  Or is Greek physical therapy a problem?  Giotikas is considered a very good doctor on this forum.  But isn't it in fact?  Will this problem be solved if I hire a physical therapist personally?

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I was really considering giotikas but couldnt find diaries, guess ill check them out now

Always thought greece was good, it has pretty high standards at a lower cost

55-65k for stryde for femur and tsfon tibia combined with pt and hospital fees included is a great price, if outcomes were good i was gonna go for 12-13cm next year. Lowest in the US is 72.5k for stryde femur without physical therapy from Dr. Mahboubian

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Quote from: Activatedx on May 16, 2019, 02:27:27 AMI was really considering giotikas but couldnt find diaries, guess ill check them out now

Always thought greece was good, it has pretty high standards at a lower cost

55-65k for stryde for femur and tsfon tibia combined with pt and hospital fees included is a great price, if outcomes were good i was gonna go for 12-13cm next year. Lowest in the US is 72.5k for stryde femur without physical therapy from Dr. Mahboubian

That's true.  With Dr. M, I ended up using my health insurance to cover PT that was close to my home. 

Quote from: james2334 on May 16, 2019, 01:29:19 AMI saw the diaries of three Giotikas patients in this forum.  Recently I learned that Greece is not good for physical therapy.  Of the three diaries, only one has succeeded without any problems.  Patients currently undergoing surgery also had some problems.  Is this a problem for personal health?  Or is Greek physical therapy a problem?  Giotikas is considered a very good doctor on this forum.  But isn't it in fact?  Will this problem be solved if I hire a physical therapist personally?

That is really interesting.  I haven't seen many Giotikas Diaries.  What were the problems that were experienced by the patients mentioned?

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That is really interesting.  I haven't seen many Giotikas Diaries.  What were the problems that were experienced by the patients mentioned?
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One patient discontinued extension without reaching the target extension.  The frame is still attached to his feet.  Patients with LON seem to have a poor balance on one leg.  I also do not know in detail.  No decision can be made as neither patient sees the final result.  But I hope both will get better in the end.

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Quote from: james2334 on May 16, 2019, 02:58:58 AMThat is really interesting.  I haven't seen many Giotikas Diaries.  What were the problems that were experienced by the patients mentioned?


One patient discontinued extension without reaching the target extension.  The frame is still attached to his feet.  Patients with LON seem to have a poor balance on one leg.  I also do not know in detail.  No decision can be made as neither patient sees the final result.  But I hope both will get better in the end.

Yeah but if you have US health insurance i would assume any complications after wards you could use health insurance at paley or rozbruch even if you had it overseas, no?

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Quote from: Activatedx on May 16, 2019, 03:04:48 AM


Yeah but if you have US health insurance i would assume any complications after wards you could use health insurance at paley or rozbruch even if you had it overseas, no?

Yes, the complications can be handled by your health insurance.

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Quote from: james2334 on May 16, 2019, 02:58:58 AMThat is really interesting.  I haven't seen many Giotikas Diaries.  What were the problems that were experienced by the patients mentioned?


One patient discontinued extension without reaching the target extension.  The frame is still attached to his feet.  Patients with LON seem to have a poor balance on one leg.  I also do not know in detail.  No decision can be made as neither patient sees the final result.  But I hope both will get better in the end.

Giotikas recommended to stop lengthening, and advised to go back a few millimeters. I think this shows that he adapts well to the situation and is a responsible doctor. He did not risk a few millimeters for the possibility of loss of functionality.

The frame is right on schedule, because patients usually wear the frames for about 10-12 months (TSF, ilizarov).

We should not judge doctors for complications, if the complication is not caused by the surgeon, or is not in his control. We should judge how doctors handle complications, how they react. Just look at doctor Guichet, at the first complication he runs away like a cry-baby.

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Quote from: sylar94 on May 16, 2019, 05:51:37 PMGiotikas recommended to stop lengthening, and advised to go back a few millimeters. I think this shows that he adapts well to the situation and is a responsible doctor. He did not risk a few millimeters for the possibility of loss of functionality.

The frame is right on schedule, because patients usually wear the frames for about 10-12 months (TSF, ilizarov).

We should not judge doctors for complications, if the complication is not caused by the surgeon, or is not in his control. We should judge how doctors handle complications, how they react. Just look at doctor Guichet, at the first complication he runs away like a cry-baby.

Kinda new to this? Can you sum up what happened with guichet?

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Quote from: Activatedx on May 16, 2019, 05:57:27 PMKinda new to this? Can you sum up what happened with guichet?

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3560.0

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Just to clarify. To stop at 4,3cm was my own decision. Afterwards I lengthened again up to 4,9cm. But since my bone growth is not that strong Dr. Giotikas recommended to shorten 2mm again as that might help.