Quote from: jbfjbj4 on April 08, 2024, 04:12:09 PMB-b-but muh athletics!
Playing sports well is absolutely nothing compared to the life benefits of extra height. You're not going to be a professional sportsplayer earning millions and having worldwide adoration, get real. Why is it 90% of manlets here are obsessed about muh sports while in real life most of them don't play at all?
Yeah i can't understand this, i've always been ass at running since middle school, probably one of the worst kids of my class. Running well is useless, i don't think anyone who is thinking about ll want to go to the olympics. What I would be worried about is stamina because i like walking and hiking in the woods a lot but i've read that you can recover it without problems after ll
Beofre and after of Running/Sprinting after limb lengthening
Quote from: sxxa on April 07, 2024, 04:28:28 PMWhile I agree with you, I must say every (serious) doctor are pretty clear about how you will end up not as athletic as you were. Thats a fact. You surely can a full recovery but you will not never ever been the same regarding your Athletic capabilities.
Why would you care about 100% athletics though? It was discussed in C4L as well when this was brought up so much. It's not like you're going to be someone who's going professional in an athletic career, and height is something you'll actually use everyday. Unless your career track is being a full athlete, then there's 0 reasons for you to care having 100% full athletics. Plus it was discussed, about that a lot of people whom were undergoing leg lengthening weren't even that athletic nor strong and very good assumption they weren't even near their 100% capability. So you wouldn't even know if you were even close to 100% your athletic capability, but if you knew you were, you most likely wouldn't even consider this anyways. It was also actually post-op and during consolidation that they're actually much more stronger in terms of strength due to increased focus on recovery, physical therapy, etc.
A lot of people who underwent safe stature lengthening is just fine athletic-wise, they may not be 100%, but they're a very good close to it. There's only really two reasons why anyways, the soft tissue that has lengthened, and your biomechanics which has a lot of the crux in that matter, but also at the same time, it's something you will eventually get used to.
Quote from: JustineCollins on April 07, 2024, 06:23:06 PMTbh, Person in video don't look like have gone under limb lengthened due to having right wingspan and appropriate torso structure even after 11.5cm lengthened and we all know how badly do our ratio's get after lengthening this much.
Yea it's why I'm a bit good confident if I lengthen my femurs since I have over 4 inch wingspan over my height, and my torso does look long. My femurs are the one that got screwed over lol.
Quote from: sxxa on April 07, 2024, 04:28:28 PMWhile I agree with you, I must say every (serious) doctor are pretty clear about how you will end up not as athletic as you were. Thats a fact. You surely can a full recovery but you will not never ever been the same regarding your Athletic capabilities.
Yes, which is why if you are a professional athlete you should probably wait until after you're career is over.
Quote from: LLinspector on April 07, 2024, 04:30:54 PMDid i miss the part of the video where he shows himself running and the part with the before footage?
"Now I can run/jog indefinitely and without pain."
Quote from: JustineCollins on April 07, 2024, 06:23:06 PMTbh, Person in video don't look like have gone under limb lengthened due to having right wingspan and appropriate torso structure even after 11.5cm lengthened and we all know how badly do our ratio's get after lengthening this much.
Please take a look at his other videos. He shows a lot of before and after proportions. His wingspan is naturally really wide. Everyone has different proportions, and his were perfect for LL.
Quote from: jbfjbj4 on April 08, 2024, 04:12:09 PMB-b-but muh athletics!
Playing sports well is absolutely nothing compared to the life benefits of extra height. You're not going to be a professional sportsplayer earning millions and having worldwide adoration, get real. Why is it 90% of manlets here are obsessed about muh sports while in real life most of them don't play at all?
Quote from: Rellec on April 08, 2024, 05:06:59 PMYeah i can't understand this, i've always been ass at running since middle school, probably one of the worst kids of my class. Running well is useless, i don't think anyone who is thinking about ll want to go to the olympics. What I would be worried about is stamina because i like walking and hiking in the woods a lot but i've read that you can recover it without problems after ll
Quote from: markr09 on April 09, 2024, 10:54:07 AMWhy would you care about 100% athletics though? It was discussed in C4L as well when this was brought up so much. It's not like you're going to be someone who's going professional in an athletic career, and height is something you'll actually use everyday. Unless your career track is being a full athlete, then there's 0 reasons for you to care having 100% full athletics. Plus it was discussed, about that a lot of people whom were undergoing leg lengthening weren't even that athletic nor strong and very good assumption they weren't even near their 100% capability. So you wouldn't even know if you were even close to 100% your athletic capability, but if you knew you were, you most likely wouldn't even consider this anyways. It was also actually post-op and during consolidation that they're actually much more stronger in terms of strength due to increased focus on recovery, physical therapy, etc.
A lot of people who underwent safe stature lengthening is just fine athletic-wise, they may not be 100%, but they're a very good close to it. There's only really two reasons why anyways, the soft tissue that has lengthened, and your biomechanics which has a lot of the crux in that matter, but also at the same time, it's something you will eventually get used to.Yea it's why I'm a bit good confident if I lengthen my femurs since I have over 4 inch wingspan over my height, and my torso does look long. My femurs are the one that got screwed over lol.
Exactly this.
Unless you are a professional athlete, who cares? Is it that big of a deal if your 100m sprint goes up by a couple seconds or your mile time goes up a little bit? Most people on this forum or in general are not professional athletes. The most important aspect is getting back to 1) Pain Free 2) Good mobility/flexibility. If you have some hobbies like hiking, you can absolutely get back to that without a problem like the person in the video.
"literally no one can run properly after having the surgery, no matter how long recovery" is just not true. Yes, you may not reach 100% again. But that doesn't mean you'll never be able to "run properly" again. That is ridiculous crap you read in the Instagram comment sections by people who have no idea what they are talking about. You see people say things like: "You'll be crippled if you get limb lengthening", this stuff just isn't true. The only people getting that jacked up are by butcher surgeons...which everybody says on this forum to not go to butchers. That's your own fault. Amazingly, the man in the video I posted above went to a butcher surgeon! And he got great results. But it's a gamble. Some guys are OK afterwards, and some are not. The gamble isn't worth it.
Here's a good video (Different patient and surgeon than the other one I posted) from Dr. Donghoon Lee(A very respected and reputable surgeon). The patient can be seen doing a 50m sprint in 7:82 seconds after Limb Lengthening 7.2cm:
Before videos would be nice because I'd bet your average pre-LL patient sprinting would probably be pretty bad regardless. Very few people sprint, the average non-athletic person sprinting looks kinda goofy.
But to be sure, if you're a professional athlete you should not undergo LL. It's very likely your 100m time will go up after LL.
Quote from: LLinspector on April 07, 2024, 02:34:33 PMThats because literally no one can run properly after having the surgery, no matter how long recovery. The reason the running vids you see online are slow is because having limb lengthening permanently ruins your running and athleticism. The reason people dont post before videos is because they dont want to show you how much worse their running is because of shame or whatever. If you need to run or want to keep your athleticness, dont have the surgery ever.
I guess it's an otherworldly or divine event that my walk and gait are flawless and fully back to normal, and I can run completely properly after LL, as well as starting to sprint, since, according to you literally no one can do it.
There is so SO SO SO much misinformation on this procedure and outcomes. If you want to return like you were before:
1) Choose the absolute best doctor possible. In the US, I would only use Paley/Rozbruch (coin toss, depending on whether you need structure with PT or you are better on your own) or Assayag as 2nd choice. Others will get there, it will just take time
This isn't something to cheap out on if you want the best possible outcome.
2) Go into the surgery as flexible as possible with your lower extremities
3) PT every day, take supplements, rest, sleep
4) LISTEN TO YOUR DR. Don't be eager to walk, stand, etc. too fast. Follow protocol. The wheelchair sucks. But you have to be patient.
5) Put the work into your recovery. Add a little every day. Don't push beyond your limits. Stay consistent. Lots of hip flexor exercises, walking, leg press, leg extensions, leg curls, bridges (those are your best friend). Start with as little as you're comfortable with, add a little more as you get stronger
6) Once you can walk 3 miles without hurting and with normal gait, and you're cleared to run, ease into running. You're gonna wobble a bit at first. It doesn't last. Just run/walk, increasing running, decreasing walking every week.
Also work on your fast-twitch muscles. Start with jumping jacks, jumping in place, then small box jumps, light plylometrics, etc.
Aside from sprinting, which I just unlocked, I'm fully back to normal. I can sprint short distances, I just gas out. Just need to build endurance.
I know at least one other person who is almost back to normal, and have heard of many others who get similar results. You get what you pay for and what you put in. So stop trying to scare people.
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