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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 9:20 am
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Hi everyone🙋,I'm a young male(just 21 years old).I have spent a lot of time reading the patient's diary (in fact i'm a newbie there ☺) and I think this forum is great.
Currently I'm 176/177 cm and I really would like to be at least 180 cm.The best option would be achieving 182/183 cm,that would be great.I was asking my self which method would be the best,if you have some tipes for me,that would be great.
★I would prefer doing tibias because having longer tibias is aesthetical better than having longer femurs (in my opinion)
★I would do this only in USA or Europe,considering other patient's experiences like Sweden,crimsontide and others.
It would be great if anyone would explaine me the differences between LATN( i know the acronyme is "lengthening and then nailing" but i didn't understand what it does imply)  and LON.
I'm clealrly not English nor American so i'm apologizing for my bad writing skills.
I know i don't have a bad height (i'm deeply aware that some members of this forum wish had my height,so it's not my intention to seem like an   or greedy man) but it's obvious that guys that are 6' feet have a lot of noticeable advantages.And a lot of young male are above 5.10'
Best regards for all of you

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 9:57 am
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It all depends on your budget. You mentioned Lon and Latn so I assume you know what internal methods are and don't want to do them because of the price. If that is the case you would have to do in Europe as you won't find a inexpensive doctor for externals in the u.s. There are some in western and eastern europe where you can do the hybrid methods. Check the doctors section for more details such as price and what procedures they do.

The difference of Lon and Latn is that Lon you insert the nail together in the first surgery with the frames. With Latn you put the frames on first lengthen and then take the frames out and then insert the nail. So there is more surgery involved with Latn but it has the advantage that you can have the doctor correct alignment issues caused during lengthening while with Lon you won't be able to do it. If you are doing Tibias and are not using pure externals then it is better to do only 5cm.

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 10:05 am
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Quote from: The Dreamer on August 22, 2017, 09:20:12 AMHi everyone🙋,I'm a young male(just 21 years old).I have spent a lot of time reading the patient's diary (in fact i'm a newbie there ☺) and I think this forum is great.
Currently I'm 176/177 cm and I really would like to be at least 180 cm.The best option would be achieving 182/183 cm,that would be great.I was asking my self which method would be the best,if you have some tipes for me,that would be great.
★I would prefer doing tibias because having longer tibias is aesthetical better than having longer femurs (in my opinion)
★I would do this only in USA or Europe,considering other patient's experiences like Sweden,crimsontide and others.
It would be great if anyone would explaine me the differences between LATN( i know the acronyme is "lengthening and then nailing" but i didn't understand what it does imply)  and LON.
I'm clealrly not English nor American so i'm apologizing for my bad writing skills.
I know i don't have a bad height (i'm deeply aware that some members of this forum wish had my height,so it's not my intention to seem like an ahole or greedy man) but it's obvious that guys that are 6' feet have a lot of noticeable advantages.And a lot of young male are above 5.10'
Best regards for all of you


I am 5'10.5 in the middle of the day and am in same position as you. I wear a 30 inch inseam and am going to lengthen 3-4 cm external tibias with Dr. Salameh in Germany in about a year/two years.
Dr. Salameh is expensive (around 25k euros i believe) but very experienced and he has full weight bearing fixators that you can hide under sweat pants. Thats why I am going to go to him. I'm from the US too

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 10:45 am
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First of all,thank you for replying Bander 72☺.No,I'm not excluding any method because of the budget,i'm seeking the best one which would me allow to gain at least 5 cm with the minimal pain and effort.However i'm a aware that is impossible to be painless.If i'm not wrong,the Penguin's case 😮was the only surgery with pain level mostly equal to 0/1.
I still don't understand the sense of inserting both the nail(are you talking about an extensive nail like Precice ?) and frames(do you mean ilizarov frames ?). If i didn't misunderstand those 2 metods seem ibrid methods(?).
Greetings

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 11:17 am
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Go for external only on tibias with Catagni. It is the best choice for external tibias in the world and you can easily gain 6cm, be good aesthetically and reach 6ft.

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 11:27 am
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Quote from: The Dreamer on August 22, 2017, 10:45:22 AMFirst of all,thank you for replying Bander 72☺.No,I'm not excluding any method because of the budget,i'm seeking the best one which would me allow to gain at least 5 cm with the minimal pain and effort.However i'm a aware that is impossible to be painless.If i'm not wrong,the Penguin's case 😮was the only surgery with pain level mostly equal to 0/1.
I still don't understand the sense of inserting both the nail(are you talking about an extensive nail like Precice ?) and frames(do you mean ilizarov frames ?). If i didn't misunderstand those 2 metods seem ibrid methods(?).
Greetings


When doing Latn or Lon you will still use traditional frames during lengthening but the nail is inserted so you can take frames out sooner and have support for your body. The safest would be as bodybuilder said external with catgni but the con is and which is why I don't want to do pure external is that you have to keep those frames on longer which can be more uncomfortable. If you do 5 cm then you should be fine with a hybrid method.

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 11:28 am
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Quote from: Body Builder on August 22, 2017, 11:17:35 AMGo for external only on tibias with Catagni. It is the best choice for external tibias in the world and you can easily gain 6cm, be good aesthetically and reach 6ft.


Catagni is a very good option for external operation.

I just feel like going to Salameh because of his device being full weight bearing and can very small (can hide under baggy sweats)

Whats your view on Salameh in Germany?

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 11:49 am
#8

Quote from: MirinHeight on August 22, 2017, 11:28:28 AMCatagni is a very good option for external operation.

I just feel like going to Salameh because of his device being full weight bearing and can very small (can hide under baggy sweats)

Whats your view on Salameh in Germany?

I am not sure if Salamehfix can correct malunions like hexapods Catagni use and I think that Salameh's price is expensive for pure external.
Otherwise I think he is a capable doctor but between him and Catagni I'd have choosed the second.

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 11:58 am
#9

Hi Body Builder🙋,thanks for replying. In fact I live in Italy and Catagni & Pili are italian doctors.The distance between my current location and Milan is 2 hours(train). I was wondering why are you stateting it would be easy🙈.Sweden clearly told us to not do more than 5 cm on tibias in a lot of posts of his diary.
I gues you're recomending pure external because using internal nails (or hybrid methods) seems to encourage the permanent knee pain.I've read a lot about this in forum. Feel free to correct me whenever you thinks i'm stating wrong things.
PS:May I ask you if you did LL ? Because i've read a lot of diaries but not all of them.
However thanks for sharing your experiences with we "new" guys,you',re great guys !✊✊

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017, 12:04 pm
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Since you are Italian and just 2 hours train ride from Milano Catagni should be your choince IMO.
 
Think carefully if you want to do this surgery at your height though as Italians are not that tall on average (I know because I live in Bologna)

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