How much would you lengthen ?

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Hi , I'm 23yo and 5'9 .
I recently measured my bones and my femur is 42cm and tibia 37cm (roughly cause I can't swear they are 10/10 accurate but at least close to it) .

I plan to lengthen between 5.5 to 6 cm on my femurs with internal nails (hopefully with stryde in 2023) .

What are your thoughts on that ?

Any former patient with similar stats ? How is your recovery?

I'm intrested in hearing some opinions regarding my LL plan from either former and (actuall) perspective patients .

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Quote from: five_six on January 30, 2022, 08:29:31 PMThe consensus is that 5.5-6cm on femurs is completely doable.

I'm getting my femur surgery with the Precice nails this June, and am planning to max out the nail at 8cm. A year later I'm getting my tibias done, hopefully to get 6-8cm there. The latter will likely be more difficult.

What doctor you planning to with ?
N why not just 8 femur and call it a day ?
5'9 is a good height ; if you have it you might want more or you might be fine , but from 5'6 , I think it's a big jump and a good height  unless you are from sweden or countries with tall avarage heights .

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Quote from: five_six on January 30, 2022, 09:20:30 PMIt's in the US, I'll let people know the doctor when I start my diary for personal reasons.

My goal is to hit 6ft. My logic is that I would rather just accept and embrace being short instead of going to an entire surgery process to be "average." I want to be above average if I even consider the surgery, which is why I'm doing two operations.

Also, you're 5'9 lol, idk what you're saying bro

I have my reasons but I always stated that with my look , height has never been an issue with anything .
My job was different from the ones that a normal person would do and the people I met also had different logics so that helped me develope dysphoria at 5'9 .
Not necessarily you will be happy at 5'9 but I was just saying that it is worth considering stopping because mine it's a very personal story/perspective affected by my job and some people around me , which again ,are not common in ppl seeking LL (for what've seen so far) .
I was just saying tho , my opinion will not be your reality regardless but was just a pov worth of thinking on ig.

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Yes of course even just the desire of being taller then avarage or simply tall can justify this surgery if that desire it's big enough and there is enough knowledge of the process/possible complications.

Looking forward to follow your diary @five_six since you are the one who will undergo this surgery first .

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Quote from: ilovescience on January 31, 2022, 09:58:53 PMSorry I am a little confused here. Do you mean taller people have more potential to lenghten 2 cm more than snorter people on legs?

He means that taller people can lengthen more because they have longer bones .
A person with a longer bone can lengthen more and have the same result as a shorter person apparently lenghetning more conservatively.

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Quote from: zaozari on February 01, 2022, 04:43:42 PMThe problem won't be to find how to produce more bone or how to lenghten more.
The issue is the physiological, biological and biomechamics natural limits. The body is a fully integrared organism, not a mechanic machine. If one grows too much, organs may face disproportional challenges, for example heart will have to pump more blood and quicker, bone marrow will have to produce more blood, nerve coordination may be changed, feet and iliac bones may be too stressed, tendons more subject to tendinitis, all sorts of problems impossible to foresee may happen.

Agree , there will ,maybe,be a safer and slower way to lengthen without having pre-consolidation havig less soft tissues problems but other then that...our body it's not designed to allow massive changes so there will always be some limits with LL .
For the moment,  I just wished there was a "biofeedback" as Paley anticipated was gonna be integrated in the next gen nails,allowing us n surgeons to know what is going on inside and an authomated lenghetning process that lengthens when the muscles are ready to and calculates times between lengthening sessions to maximize soft tissues recovery but minimize chances of bone pre consolidations .
Paley ready anticipated that but given the Stryde recall,  I can't wait 5 more years ..but future LLers might have that luck and I believe that it's the max we can wish for our generation.

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I think that following blindly some rules it's kinda like trying to convince yourself that you did it all to stay safe by following medical "guidelines" ,in order to justify bigger amounts of lengthening.
In reality,  LL it's not that new , but CLL is and n LL discrepancy patient even with loss of athletic ability would be way better if they have equaly long legs , while for CLL patients it's not the same thing ,at all,so same stats do not apply to us .
Also I said in so many times but people seems to not wanna hear it : Not even 10 years ago doctors lengthened tibia more then femur and safe limits were what we would consider foolish today .

A guy in this forum lengthened 9 cm with betz and he was 5'8 (don't remember his nickname) .
He lost so much of its leg power and he has limitations when it comes to sports,strength etc.
He was not a dwarf with 10cm femurs , but he still got a bad outcome and he was probably just SLIGHLY over the 20% of his femur length.
Let's say he did 8 or 8.5 cm ...result would have been the same !
He wished he stopped the lengthening at 5 or 6 cm I believe ... and his story should teach us since he did us the favour to share it .
I really don't care what some unknown ppl around the world
Will do with their legs , but their bad outcome sometimes harms this community because they refuse to tell the story as it is and keep blaming other factors of the procedure and we all get scared and anxious when we do not know the real backgrounds .
Idk how ppl here can believe more to stats then ACTUALL former patients but whatever ..Like zaozari said , it's ok to focus on % but to a certain degree.

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Quote from: Mulholland Dr on February 03, 2022, 10:20:16 AMI will give Paley's Option 5 a try if failed or couldn't achieve my goal I would kill myself

Can you stop?

We got it , you would ; hope Paley can help you !
And if he can't there is always betz ,guichet n giotikas who use albizza based nails and almost cripple people with 10 cm femur ; add to that 6 cm tibia with another good doctor and u got 16 cm ,congrats !

People at 5'7 aim at 5'9 and are super happy with it but nope , you want to be tall from 5'5 ( that s ur height I believe) or you would kill yourself as if you knew what being avarage feels like but we already discussed that so u have Paley and some  butchers around who would not interfeer with your psychological problem and will lengthen you to ur desire .