I reached out to “Michael Tschida” former Betz patient

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Quote from: 1team on December 14, 2022, 09:50:01 PMThis could be why Dr Franz in C4L said 6-6.5cm is optimal amount on femurs and after this problems started to increase exponentially. I've also read many LL patients say after 6cm they got much tighter. Permanently being tighter and needing, not wanting to stretch everyday sounds like an annoying tradeoff.

I know many people who don’t need to keep stretching forever and they did more than that. Ultimately unless you have nonunion, the body will adapt. Even if it takes years. Yes the more you do the longer it will take until you fully truly recover. But at the end of the day I disagree with that trade off. The trade off is made once you do the surgery. If you do not want to stretch and train and recover for months then you should not do the surgery, even for smaller amounts. And marginal height increases like 3 or 4 cm is definitely not worth it.
I am honest I wouldn’t have done this if I was limited to 6.5cm. It took an extreme toll of my life and considering that irl 5cm is the mark where most patients really slowly start do see an increase. Idk man. For me it was even later. I only really slowly saw it post 6

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Quote from: Kanye Western on December 14, 2022, 11:36:59 AMI was curious after seeing his video a few years ago on how he did the surgery to prolong his modelling career.

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This is what he said to me;

Hello, I usually no longer answer questions about my leg lengthening. However, I would like to make an exception: the whole lengthening process is very hard, painful and expensive. It is important that you work a lot yourself by doing stretching and stabilization exercises - preferably before the procedure and afterwards for life. Then you will reach a good level of training a few months after the metal removal. Although you are in the best hands with Prof. Betz, I would not recommend the surgery. Ultimately, however, everyone has to decide for themselves why they want to take on this procedure.

In the first few months, the gait pattern is significantly restricted. However, with the appropriate training and adequate therapy, it gets much better. I no longer have any restrictions.


Yes, I am completely healthy and fit again. But I still stretch and train regularly and have been a great contributor from the start. It was really a very hard path that only very few can walk. Therefore I would not downplay the procedure under any circumstances. This has nothing to do with my previous size.

Very interesting take

I think the model is lieing. Yes the process is hard. But I think he just wants to keep is height advantage and doesn't want others to get tall. He is being selfish and wants to keep the benefits to himself. With that height it would have helped his modelling career so I don't think he regrets.

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He said he didn't regret it and that it was the best decision of his life

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Quote from: Antonio111111 on December 18, 2022, 11:53:05 AMI think the model is lieing. Yes the process is hard. But I think he just wants to keep is height advantage and doesn't want others to get tall. He is being selfish and wants to keep the benefits to himself. With that height it would have helped his modelling career so I don't think he regrets.

Please read his statement again before spreading such allegations out…
His message is very clear. The procedure is not an easy going thing and as he said should not be downplayed at all. I think he has described it honestly and transparently, that this surgery and the process which comes along with that should be very well-thought-out.

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I get the feeling that if you're the type who has never played sports, gone to the gym, worked physically hard for something consistently, this surgery is going to be a shocker and overwhelming.  I think these are the people who struggle the most.

I think I calculated total miles Ive run in my life is equal to the distance across the US.  And then Ive lifted my whole life.  Also have had an injury that was excruciating (think central nervous system and being hospitalized).  If I say its bad next month when I get the surgery...its bad.  Will keep all updated.

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Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on December 18, 2022, 05:16:44 PMI get the feeling that if you're the type who has never played sports, gone to the gym, worked physically hard for something consistently, this surgery is going to be a shocker and overwhelming.  I think these are the people who struggle the most.

I think I calculated total miles Ive run in my life is equal to the distance across the US.  And then Ive lifted my whole life.  Also have had an injury that was excruciating (think central nervous system and being hospitalized).  If I say its bad next month when I get the surgery...its bad.  Will keep all updated.

Hahaha my man 💪🏽 You got this!!

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Thanks brother

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Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on December 18, 2022, 05:16:44 PMI think I calculated total miles Ive run in my life is equal to the distance across the US.  And then Ive lifted my whole life.  Also have had an injury that was excruciating (think central nervous system and being hospitalized).  If I say its bad next month when I get the surgery...its bad.  Will keep all updated.

You might have extra problems from lengthening big, thick leg muscles.  Not trying to discourage you though.  People who struggle a lot still get their height.

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Its a good point but I have runner legs, not body builder legs.  Never dead lifted or anything like that.  Tibias would prob be harder for me because I do have pretty built calves.  Luckily doing femurs though.

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It once again shows that the thing limiting LL and by far the biggest issue is soft tissue stretching.

The bones themselves heal fine assuming no complications. The problem lies in the tightness of the muscles, nerves etc.

We need to somehow make the soft tissue grow in a more natural manner like with normal height growth.

Maybe much slower continous lengthening during night time mixed with HGH instead of the discrete 0.33mm jumps like now.