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When I was finding information on this probably I am outdated too.

2011 study: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/weekinreview/01kolata.html?_r=0

But... I just found this

2012 ASPS: http://www.plasticsurgery.org/news/past-press-releases/2012-archives/fat-cells-don%E2%80%99t-return-to-treated-or-untreated-areas-after-liposuction-asps-study-finds.html

both articles agree with each other. the way the body works is that the fat cells are definitive in number, after the fat cells are full the body recruits more fat cells. genetics determines where the fat cells will appear when you need more. although it is characteristic (usually to appear) for fat to appear on males and females by comparison differently ie as an example abdomen on men, and thighs and but for women. its genetic /probability based.

basically after you remove the fat cells if your fat cells are not full then you will not gain more fat cells, you will only continue to fill the existing fat cells.

fat will accumulate to the areas where the persons genetics have placed the most fat cells. and also to where the body genetically decides to send new fat cells.

an area where fat cells have been removed can indeed gain new fat if the area had empty fat cells that were not sucked away. which will refill if you consume excess calories. this will make it appear as though you are gaining weight in the liposucted area even though your fat cells around your body are not full.

the best method for the best results is to get liposuction followed by a hardcore diet and training routine to loose 5+kg after surgery. this ensures target fat is removed, and then existing fat cells are depleted. giving you a buffer from the body deciding to build more fat cells which could be sent to the liposucted area.

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Quote from: ForcedPuberty on February 20, 2015, 07:41:47 AMboth articles agree with each other. the way the body works is that the fat cells are definitive in number, after the fat cells are full the body recruits more fat cells. genetics determines where the fat cells will appear when you need more. although it is characteristic (usually to appear) for fat to appear on males and females by comparison differently ie as an example abdomen on men, and thighs and but for women. its genetic /probability based.

basically after you remove the fat cells if your fat cells are not full then you will not gain more fat cells, you will only continue to fill the existing fat cells.

fat will accumulate to the areas where the persons genetics have placed the most fat cells. and also to where the body genetically decides to send new fat cells.

an area where fat cells have been removed can indeed gain new fat if the area had empty fat cells that were not sucked away. which will refill if you consume excess calories. this will make it appear as though you are gaining weight in the liposucted area even though your fat cells around your body are not full.

the best method for the best results is to get liposuction followed by a hardcore diet and training routine to loose 5+kg after surgery. this ensures target fat is removed, and then existing fat cells are depleted. giving you a buffer from the body deciding to build more fat cells which could be sent to the liposucted area.

old study: fat cells not definite in number after adulthood. after liposuction,fat cells can increase in numbers but in other areas - one study said it grew back as visceral fat.. (related study: when participants exercised, fat did not redistribute to other areas; if they did not exercise, fat went to non-liposuctioned areas)

new study: fat cells do not return to treated or untreated areas after lipo: "The new study refutes a report published last year in Obesity, which concluded that fat returns to untreated areas of the body, especially the abdomen, shoulders, and arms within one year after liposuction. In a follow-up story, the New York Times featured a caricature of a distorted woman, looking trim in the lower body, but like the Incredible Hulk in the upper body. This disturbing image was widely publicized on the Internet."

problem with the study? they only studied results at 3 months. the old study studied results at one year. and a related exercise/diet study studied results (I think) around one year later.

at 3 months you do not get much redistribution.

and where did you get the idea that males put fat at the abdominal area? females have stubborn fat at the abdominal area which is why when surgeons do fat transfer, they take it from the abdomen for females.and which is why I don't like most females cos' they have fat at the abdomen (reason: adaptation for childbearing)

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QuoteDALLAS — May 18, 2010 — The age-old question of why men store fat in their bellies and women store it in their hips may have finally been answered: Genetically speaking, the fat tissue is almost completely different.

  “We found that out of about 40,000 mouse genes, only 138 are commonly found in both male and female fat cells,” said Dr. Deborah Clegg, assistant professor of internal medicine at UT Southwestern Medical Center and senior author of the study appearing in the International Journal of Obesity. “This was completely unexpected. We expected the exact opposite – that 138 would be different and the rest would be the same between the sexes.”


Deborah Clegg
 
Dr. Deborah Clegg and colleagues have discovered that fat tissue, by gender, is almost completely different genetically. Their finding helps explain why men store fat in their bellies and women store it in their hips.
 


The study involved mice, which distribute their fat in a sexually dimorphic pattern similar to humans.

“Given the difference in gene expression profiles, a female fat tissue won’t behave anything like a male fat tissue and vice versa,” Dr. Clegg said. “The notion that fat cells between males and females are alike is inconsistent with our findings.”

In humans, men are more likely to carry extra weight around their guts while pre-menopausal women store it in their butts, thighs and hips

http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsroom/news-releases/year-2010/belly-fat-or-hip-fat-it-really-is-all-in-your-genes-says-ut-southwestern-researcher.html


its not really disputed. its quite common knowledge that men store fat on the abdomen.

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this post was read. so I removed it as it was long.

signed fp

my intention was to post the explanation then delete it.

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this post was read. so I removed it as it was long.

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You are right that conventional medical understanding is that once you reach adulthood the no. of fat cells is the same. UNLESS you put on so much weight, the body will make new fat cells. That is the orthodox medical understanding.

Yup if you critically analyse the first study (I also came to the same conclusions), there are two possible explanations for the uneven redistribution of fat:
1. When the people gained fat, they gained new fat cells in the other areas where they are predisposed to have more fat cells. The equilibrium theory which I proposed, which is that the body fights to keep the number of fat cells constant.
OR 2. When the people gained fat, they gained an increase in volume of the fat cells in those other areas BECAUSE genetically, they are predisposed to fat in those area (different receptors). Eg, if you liposuctioned your abdomen, you might find the fat came back to your arms because the arm fat cells became larger; the fat did not go to your face due to genetics. (different receptors for different adipose cells)

The second study, I did not read it. Did the fat come back, but was evenly distributed?

Re, abdominal fat. I do not have much abdominal fat. Always had a six pack. So I do not know why people say that men put on fat at the abdomen. I am just challenging the common understanding. I am saying that not every male puts fat at the abdomen. Women put on more fat on the abdomen - look at most porn stars (which aren't my type). so fat at the abdomen. (women also have a higher body fat percent, but it is unacceptable for a girl to be fatter than me at the abdomen)

Irregardless, this is off-topic (yes irregardless is  a word according to Merriam-Webster). What module did you take In university? Also let me know your thoughts about doing 8 cm tibia.

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QuoteAlso let me know your thoughts about doing 8 cm tibia.

I think it is important to get femur done if you get tibia done.

I believe in keeping the biomechanics as close to normal as possible.

I believe 6cm on tibia + 5cm on femur is perfect. both are within safe limits and the overall increase in leg length is desirable for a lot of people.

I believe you are doing 8cm on tibia to negate needing to do femur. while I can understand your reasoning I think its better to get a little less on tibia and balance the biomechanics with a surgery for femur. overall you will have less soft tissue stress per leg segment, more length overall, and better biomechanics.

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Quote from: ForcedPuberty on February 20, 2015, 07:03:18 AMall your assertions are wrong. im not going to say why it would take to much effort.

do you want to know why.

hormones. when a male has a baby his testosterone lowers so that he can be a better father figure and not go around having sex with all the bitches, when a women has a baby her hormones alter so that she is attracted to a man with less testosterone. it has nothing to do with height or manliness, its all hormones. even a 6"5 man with a crap load of muscle will undergo this biological change. this is evolution at its finest to implement the family structure.

when women are on the pill it fks up this evolutionary development by altering preference to abnormally sexual selection desires.


do you understand the definition to paradox.

completely incorrect. it is 5"9'5 which has by far the number of kids.

i meant less masculine not less feminine, type mistake. IK when men have babies their testosterone lowers, but this doesnt work on players. When most fertile women prefer masculine men, when not fertile feminine men. and o 6foot6 reproduces has the most babies not 5foot9.

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I don't understand this thread with so many off topic posts and many deleted posts.

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Quote from: ForcedPuberty on February 20, 2015, 07:25:12 AM
ok I don't even know where to start with this 1.

for starters the average is 63.5 inches with a standard deviation of 2.5 inches which brings the 2nd standard deviation to 68.5inches. 173.99cm for the 95 percentile and under.  this makes the 95% percentile 5"8.5 not 5"11. im fairly sure my maths is correct. if im wrong please show me. but as it stands if this is correct then you have manipulated the data.

http://www.analytictech.com/mb313/sd.htm

second 85% of women are less than 66 inches, this is 5"5, the method of manipulation you are employing is to use a larger standard deviation size, for example if there was 1 women in the world who was 10 foot tall it would be accurate to say that 100 percent of all women who don't have disease are between 4"11 (for arguments sake) and 10 foot. while a true statement it is a manipulation to skew the statistics by including such a tini minority of women to drag up the averages for the bulk of the data. to focus on a valid conclusion you can not include the total poluation as height and preference is largly a probability orientated desire.


I can not criticize any of your other points because they are based on emotions with zero logic and just because you have a feeling. in short they are assertions based on no logic with no actual reason. your just making statements with no backing, trying to adhere to colloquial accepted non truths for your validation.

for example. everyone lies about their height so now it has lost all meaning and now all heights that don't agree with my assertion are invalid.

you cant just say things are invalid because you want them to be invalid.

do u think women use logic when attracted or emotions?