My LL Journey - Dr. Jamal Abu Nemer, Kiev

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Day 9 Update

Same daily routine so nothing really new. I am clicking, walking, eating healthy, sleeping deeply and being checked up by Dr. Jamal every day.

I was told that my legs are ready for more exercise. From tomorrow I need to walk every 3 hours for 30 minutes, 3 to 4 times a day. I have to walk slowly and not in a rush, and it is recommended to just stand from time to time for 1 to 2 minutes during the walking. I was informed that just standing is a very important duty during the exercise.

My walking plan for tomorrow will be as follow:

09:00 - 9:30 am

12:30 - 1:00 pm

04:00 - 4:30 pm

07:30 - 08:00 pm (Optional)

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Quote from: Petite888 on May 04, 2018, 12:09:47 PMHi Rocky,

As a female I don’t feel like I need lots of height but being 4’11” really sucks. Would be nice to experience the remaining half of my life at a relatively normal height rather than come up to every bodies armpit 

I do also realise that everything is working against me when it comes to CLL (gender, sxx, race) so I do need to be conservative and I want to be do little enough so people don’t really notice that I suddenly got soo much taller....... better they think “you look well, something different, but I can’t quite place it!” 

Hope you are doing well. You seem to be doing amazingly well actually that I’m almost considering going to Kiev myself 


Hi Petite888

Sorry for being late on my reply.

I think you should look more positively at your situation.

For the height: 4’11 is not that bad for a female. Statistics show that alot of men get attracted to shorter women, so it shouldn't be hindering you with the opposite gender.

For the gender: Whats wrong with being a female! You know that women had a lot of influence on the world's history and economics than we do realize. In most homes, women rule even men don't like to admit it. In our neighborhood, people think that I am ruling the house. But in reality, it is my wife 

For the race: Hmm. I don't know which race you are from. But be proud of your race no matter what!

Regarding the lengthening and if people will notice it or not. Screw it all. Do what pleases you and not what pleases others. If you wish to get 2 inches taller, do it. If you wish to reach 4 inches (probably in two steps), then just do it.

Do what makes you feel happy deep inside, and forget about our environments expectations.

Again: Screw others opinion.


Lastly, regarding my experience in Kiev. So far so good. Give it couple of months to see Dr. Jamal's capabilities. So far everything is going by the book. But remember, we didn't start with the left leg yet. We are just scratching the surface so far. Only time will uncover the final result 

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Day 10 Update

As planned, I walked today 3 x 30 minutes with 3 hours breaking intervals. I'm just putting music on and going back and forth in the apartment. The daily walking routines such as showering, going back and forth to the kitchen and bathroom are not calculated in the 30 minutes walking exercises. My right leg feels stronger and stronger every day.

The weather is very hot outside and  I don't feel like leaving the apartment. I'm more than fine being inside.

Dr. Jamal came by and we did 7 clicks. Every 18 clicks gives 1 mm, so we are clicking with a slow rate now.

We will do a scanning in couple of days to measure the distance achieved so far. Lets see.

Next step: Netflex

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Quote from: Rocky on May 05, 2018, 07:49:03 PM
Hi Petite888

Sorry for being late on my reply.

I think you should look more positively at your situation.

For the height: 4’11 is not that bad for a female. Statistics show that alot of men get attracted to shorter women, so it shouldn't be hindering you with the opposite gender.

For the gender: Whats wrong with being a female! You know that women had a lot of influence on the world's history and economics than we do realize. In most homes, women rule even men don't like to admit it. In our neighborhood, people think that I am ruling the house. But in reality, it is my wife 

For the race: Hmm. I don't know which race you are from. But be proud of your race no matter what!

Regarding the lengthening and if people will notice it or not. Screw it all. Do what pleases you and not what pleases others. If you wish to get 2 inches taller, do it. If you wish to reach 4 inches (probably in two steps), then just do it.

Do what makes you feel happy deep inside, and forget about our environments expectations.

Again: Screw others opinion.


Lastly, regarding my experience in Kiev. So far so good. Give it couple of months to see Dr. Jamal's capabilities. So far everything is going by the book. But remember, we didn't start with the left leg yet. We are just scratching the surface so far. Only time will uncover the final result 

Hi Rocky,

Glad to hear that everything is going well so far, even if you are just scratching the surface, your diary is inspiring nonetheless.

Quote from: Rocky on May 05, 2018, 07:49:03 PM

For the height: 4’11 is not that bad for a female. Statistics show that alot of men get attracted to shorter women, so it shouldn't be hindering you with the opposite gender.

For the gender: Whats wrong with being a female! You know that women had a lot of influence on the world's history and economics than we do realize. In most homes, women rule even men don't like to admit it. In our neighborhood, people think that I am ruling the house. But in reality, it is my wife 

For the race: Hmm. I don't know which race you are from. But be proud of your race no matter what!

I think I must have been a tad unclear.  I am proud of my age, race and gender but it’s just not helpful when it comes to limb lengthening.  From reading journals on this forum, it seems that older people, women and people from E Asia have the hardest time when it comes to limb lengthening and I am all 3 so I have to be extra careful.

Also I am doing this for myself and not to attract men.  To be honest, even as short as I am I have never had a problem with men and with 2 kids and mid life, I’m not to bothered about men at the moment.  I spent years trying to get out of my last relationship as it is!......haha.  It would just be nice to buy a a pair of trousers off the rack, and not have to alter them, look nice in a dress without 4 inch 👠, or not have to tip toe at the kitchen sink......things normal people can do.   Oh the worse is getting on the subway in rush hour and being stuck under somebodies armpit for 3 stops! YUK!!

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Day 13 Update: (7mm Right Leg)

I thought about writing an update when I have something more fruitful to share.

Regarding my condition, my right leg is getting stronger and stronger.

I thought that I could only sleep on my back at night which I found uncomfortable because I am not used to it. I always sleep on the sides. But when I consulted Dr. Jamal he informed me that I can sleep on any side I want as long I feel comfortable. So I am now sleeping on my sides at night. Ofcourse the untouched left side is more comfortable than the right side.

I have also got crutches which gives me a lot of freedom to move around comparing to the walker. Its much faster to walk now and a total different feeling. You feel you become a free bird 

I noticed that the affects from the pain killer tablets are not as powerful as the injections. When I get the tables, my muscles are somehow tense when I walk. While the injection makes me walk without discomfort at all. So I am asking my helper to give me injections whenever I want to exercise to get the best out of my muscles activation. The pain killer injections last for 5-6 hours. This is all what I need to perform my daily exercises. Sometimes when I work till late at night, I feel my muscles get tense again so I ask her for another injection before I go to sleep.

But the interesting part today was the X Ray result. I asked Dr. Jamal to provide me the CT scanning image before the operation and the X Ray from today. It seems that I have grown 7 mm on the right leg so far.

Here are the before and after images:

https://imgur.com/a/oI2Lzgk

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Quote from: Petite888 on May 07, 2018, 12:50:22 AMHi Rocky,

Glad to hear that everything is going well so far, even if you are just scratching the surface, your diary is inspiring nonetheless.

I think I must have been a tad unclear.  I am proud of my age, race and gender but it’s just not helpful when it comes to limb lengthening.  From reading journals on this forum, it seems that older people, women and people from E Asia have the hardest time when it comes to limb lengthening and I am all 3 so I have to be extra careful.

Also I am doing this for myself and not to attract men.  To be honest, even as short as I am I have never had a problem with men and with 2 kids and mid life, I’m not to bothered about men at the moment.  I spent years trying to get out of my last relationship as it is!......haha.  It would just be nice to buy a a pair of trousers off the rack, and not have to alter them, look nice in a dress without 4 inch 👠, or not have to tip toe at the kitchen sink......things normal people can do.   Oh the worse is getting on the subway in rush hour and being stuck under somebodies armpit for 3 stops! YUK!!


Hi Petite888

I am really glad to read what you wrote.

In the beginning I thought you were an insecure teenage kid. I know it from my own teenage kid, so I was communicating with you the way I would do with my kid. But it seems that I misunderstood your message. Sorry about that.

I know exactly how you feel about buying a pair of trousers off the rack. In my case I go to dancing classes with my wife. It would be nice to be the same height as her, while she has her heels on. Normally she avoids too high heels, but I would like to see her wearing very high heels while I'm looking her in the eyes.

You made me laugh hard regarding the subway thing. Tell you what? Get 2-3 inches taller and be the one giving others the armpits torture. Armpits revenge

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Quote from: Rocky on May 08, 2018, 01:51:42 PMI know exactly how you feel about buying a pair of trousers off the rack. In my case I go to dancing classes with my wife. It would be nice to be the same height as her, while she has her heels on. Normally she avoids too high heels, but I would like to see her wearing very high heels while I'm looking her in the eyes.

What about elevator shoes? Have you ever used them before?

I hope the pain and sleep have been manageable, by the way!

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Quote from: myloginacct on May 08, 2018, 05:28:36 PMWhat about elevator shoes? Have you ever used them before?

I hope the pain and sleep have been manageable, by the way!


Hi myloginacct

I am not sure what you mean by elevator shoes. I guess shoes with high heels for men? Isn't used typically for medical treatments or so?

I'm sleeping very well. Thanks for asking. I don't really have pain but I get muscles tension if I'm not getting any sort of pain killers for long time. But I realized that pain killer injections are more powerful than the tablets, if I need to keep going on with zero tension.

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Quote from: Rocky on May 08, 2018, 06:17:27 PM
Hi myloginacct

I am not sure what you mean by elevator shoes. I guess shoes with high heels for men? Isn't used typically for medical treatments or so?

I'm sleeping very well. Thanks for asking. I don't really have pain but I get muscles tension if I'm not getting any sort of pain killers for long time. But I realized that pain killer injections are more powerful than the tablets, if I need to keep going on with zero tension.

There are shoes many people here use to get increased height in everyday life. I was just wondering if you used or would have considered using some of those before!

Glad to hear things still seem to be going very well.

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I was not aware of those type of shoes but I have searched on google to read about it. You should have told me about those shoes few weeks ago before doing LL