One inherent advantage that short people have over tall people.

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Just let him have this guys

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Quote from: Zeo on January 13, 2018, 04:48:49 AMJust let him have this guys

Chuckled. Sure thing, this is sentiment I can agree with.

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Quote from: extremis on January 13, 2018, 04:30:58 AMOne of the stupidest and most pathetic copes I've seen this user post in my entire time on this site.

1.) Nobody is impressed by people who pull guns on anyone. Being able to beat someone's ass in a fist fight is a sign of masculinity. Pulling a gun on someone like a scared pussy isn't.

2.) You're not a character in a war movie. You're not a veteran either. You have zero experience being on a battlefield. Being a "smaller target" isn't going to help you not get shot.

3.) Unless you live in the U.S., and in a state where it's legal to own and carry a gun, or in some war-torn country like Syria, it is literally one hundred percent inconsequential whether or not you're a "smaller target" for gunfire or not. Are you expecting a shootout to break out spontaneously? Give me a break.

The real "advantages" of being short are inconsequential bull  like what Android said: more "leg room" on public transportation, slightly longer lifespan, pay less for shoes because your feet are smaller, blah blah blah. No one cares about this crap. If any of these "advantages" were worth a damn this site would be a ghost town. Get real.

I agree that in general, defeating someone in gunfighting is not as impressive as beating someone in fistfighting. But it also depends on how you shoot. Shooting point blank would be seen as scared pussy, but a few hundreds feet away could be perceived as impressive as it'd show that the shooter is a dedicated shooter who possessed a considerable amount of skills in shooting a gun eventhough it has little to do with masculinity. Secondly, it takes a lot of guts to be in a gunfighting in the first place (I'm not talking about shooting someone from the back). So your opinion of beating someone in gunfighting not being a sign of masculinity might not be entirely true.

Needless to say, soldiers use gun, mafia uses gun, cowboys uses gun, even punk uses gun. Why isn't there anyone saying Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson are scared pussies? Sometimes it's not always about impressing people and attracting the opposite sex, but getting the job done. Fact is a gun can put your enemy away for eternal in a wink of an eye regardless of how impressive it is.

It might not a benefit everyone would experience. But an advantage is still an advantage. Short people who are not looking to get laid every night might not reap the benefit of LL as much.

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You are forgetting the key advantage of being shorter: longer life! In modern times size for physical battle is no longer necessary and it has been shown that the genes for longer life are found more in shorter people. Longest living people in the world are Okinawans, and in Europe in Sardinia

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Quote from: Antonio on January 20, 2018, 07:00:49 AMYou are forgetting the key advantage of being shorter: longer life! In modern times size for physical battle is no longer necessary and it has been shown that the genes for longer life are found more in shorter people. Longest living people in the world are Okinawans, and in Europe in Sardinia
It is not advantage at all, it can be but not for all short people. It is not accurate thing that all short people live longer than tall people. There is possibility that I may live shorter than tall people. It is just like ridiculous consolation for us.

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Quote from: Tiger9898 on January 20, 2018, 07:50:11 AMIt is not advantage at all, it can be but not for all short people. It is not accurate thing that all short people live longer than tall people. There is possibility that I may live shorter than tall people. It is just like ridiculous consolation for us.

No, there's a strong statistical correlation. Some even say women live longer than men on average because of the height difference. Taller people are also more likely to develop types of cancer.

The longest living people in Europe are the Sardinians, and not the Scandinavians, despite the super high living standards there, for a reason.

The main point one can use to argue against this is that it's better to lead a shorter life living as a taller guy than a long life as a short guy. Which I'd agree with.

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Quote from: myloginacct on January 20, 2018, 08:05:23 AMNo, there's a strong statistical correlation. Some even say women live longer than men on average because of the height difference. Taller people are also more likely to develop types of cancer.

The longest living people in Europe are the Sardinians, and not the Scandinavians, despite the super high living standards there, for a reason.

The main point one can use to argue against this is that it's better to lead a shorter life living as a taller guy than a long life as a short guy. Which I'd agree with.
But I wouldn't consider it as an advantage. I don't care whether I will live more than 5-8 years compared to tall people.  Only thing that I care is to live confidentially with normal height. I

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Quote from: Tiger9898 on January 20, 2018, 08:27:43 AMBut I wouldn't consider it as an advantage. I don't care whether I will live more than 5-8 years compared to tall people.  Only thing that I care is to live confidentially with normal height. I

You do realise that living longer basically means having less chance of developing life threatening diseases like cancer and heart disease. So a short person in his later age is basically healthier ceteris paribus

Whether or not being shorter and living longer is worth it is another issue, but it does not take away from the advantage of longer life for shorter people

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Quote from: BruceWayne on January 13, 2018, 11:33:12 AMI agree that in general, defeating someone in gunfighting is not as impressive as beating someone in fistfighting. But it also depends on how you shoot. Shooting point blank would be seen as scared pussy, but a few hundreds feet away could be perceived as impressive as it'd show that the shooter is a dedicated shooter who possessed a considerable amount of skills in shooting a gun eventhough it has little to do with masculinity.
LOL. I cringed so hard reading this. "Considerable amount of skills in shooting a gun". Lmfao. Get a grip. You sound like one of these guys:



QuoteSecondly, it takes a lot of guts to be in a gunfighting in the first place (I'm not talking about shooting someone from the back). So your opinion of beating someone in gunfighting not being a sign of masculinity might not be entirely true.
Except we're not talking about being "in a gunfighting". We're talking about a short man pulling a gun on an unarmed taller man because he can't beat him in a fight with his bare hands.

And shooting guns (at any skill level) not being a "sign" of masculinity is not "my" opinion. It's the opinion of the overwhelming majority of people. There's nothing inherently or classically masculine about shooting a gun.

A person who wants to be good at fist-fighting (that is, a pugilist, or "martial artist", what you like to roleplay as on this board) needs to develop their physique - they need to develop strength and endurance, which generally results in developing a robust and chiseled physique (a trait that is decidedly considered "masculine"). This is on TOP of the countless hours of practice they need to do in order to develop the skill they need to consistently beat their opponents.

Firing a gun does not require that type of conditioning. Anyone, even a little girl or a shrunken, hunched-over grandmother, can shoot a gun, and shoot it well (with enough practice).

QuoteNeedless to say, soldiers use gun, mafia uses gun, cowboys uses gun, even punk uses gun. Why isn't there anyone saying Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson are scared pussies?
Lmao. Are you serious?

There isn't anyone saying Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson are scared pussies because they're ACTORS playing a ROLE in ACTION MOVIES. Not only that, the roles they play are typically masculine, aggressive roles, i.e. Clint Eastwood in The Good, Bad and the Ugly. They play the role of average-height/tall men with guns who go around shooting OTHER average-height/tall men with guns, many of whom shoot at THEM first.

That is NOTHING like a scared 5'4" man frantically pulling his comically oversized (relative to his hands) Glock 21 on a 6'3" man who decided to push him around because he knows he can curbstomp him in a fistfight.

QuoteSometimes it's not always about impressing people and attracting the opposite sxx, but getting the job done. Fact is a gun can put your enemy away for eternal in a wink of an eye regardless of how impressive it is.
Yeah, a gun can put your enemy away "for eternal", immediately after which you will get put away "for eternal" - in prison, for manslaughter. Lmfao @ "getting the job done". The only thing that will be "done" if you pull a gun on someone, let alone fire it, and DEFINITELY let alone kill someone with it, is your life.

I suspect you've never shot or even so much as held a gun in your life. You talk like an immature teenager who seriously thinks guns are a "great equalizer" that are a counter to tall men who get physical with you.

Guess what? They're not. Every bullet shot from a gun you own has a lawyer attached to it, and depending on where that bullet lands, you may or may not end up wishing you'd just gotten your ass beaten instead, because you won't feel like a "masculine" badass martial artist movie hero (or whatever delusional larger-than-life role you're projecting onto yourself today) when you're sitting on a cot in a maximum security cell surrounded by ACTUAL thugs and badasses who tower you and will bash your face in for looking at them wrong. And guess what else? You won't have any guns to save you in prison.

QuoteIt might not a benefit everyone would experience. But an advantage is still an advantage. Short people who are not looking to get laid every night might not reap the benefit of LL as much.

I've never met a single man who considered being a "smaller target" for gunfire an advantage. I'm acquainted with a 5'3" Army veteran who served in a combat role in Afghanistan on Operation Enduring Freedom, and he regularly mentioned how his squad experience was absolute dog  because of his height. Squadmates didn't respect him, even people from other squads fked with him for fun. He's never once mentioned anything about being a "smaller target" and I'm sure he'd probably laugh his ass off if I suggested it was an "advantage".

This whole premise is stupid to begin with. Gunfights don't work the way you think they do. Cover exists. Nobody shoots from a position where they're open in real life unless they're total retards, and if that's the case, you're as good as dead no matter how "small" of a target you are. What a joke.

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Quote from: extremis on January 25, 2018, 06:08:57 AMLOL. I cringed so hard reading this. "Considerable amount of skills in shooting a gun". Lmfao. Get a grip. You sound like one of these guys:



Except we're not talking about being "in a gunfighting". We're talking about a short man pulling a gun on an unarmed taller man because he can't beat him in a fight with his bare hands.

And shooting guns (at any skill level) not being a "sign" of masculinity is not "my" opinion. It's the opinion of the overwhelming majority of people. There's nothing inherently or classically masculine about shooting a gun.

A person who wants to be good at fist-fighting (that is, a pugilist, or "martial artist", what you like to roleplay as on this board) needs to develop their physique - they need to develop strength and endurance, which generally results in developing a robust and chiseled physique (a trait that is decidedly considered "masculine"). This is on TOP of the countless hours of practice they need to do in order to develop the skill they need to consistently beat their opponents.

Firing a gun does not require that type of conditioning. Anyone, even a little girl or a shrunken, hunched-over grandmother, can shoot a gun, and shoot it well (with enough practice).

Lmao. Are you serious?

There isn't anyone saying Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson are scared pussies because they're ACTORS playing a ROLE in ACTION MOVIES. Not only that, the roles they play are typically masculine, aggressive roles, i.e. Clint Eastwood in The Good, Bad and the Ugly. They play the role of average-height/tall men with guns who go around shooting OTHER average-height/tall men with guns, many of whom shoot at THEM first.

That is NOTHING like a scared 5'4" man frantically pulling his comically oversized (relative to his hands) Glock 21 on a 6'3" man who decided to push him around because he knows he can curbstomp him in a fistfight.

Yeah, a gun can put your enemy away "for eternal", immediately after which you will get put away "for eternal" - in prison, for manslaughter. Lmfao @ "getting the job done". The only thing that will be "done" if you pull a gun on someone, let alone fire it, and DEFINITELY let alone kill someone with it, is your life.

I suspect you've never shot or even so much as held a gun in your life. You talk like an immature teenager who seriously thinks guns are a "great equalizer" that are a counter to tall men who get physical with you.

Guess what? They're not. Every bullet shot from a gun you own has a lawyer attached to it, and depending on where that bullet lands, you may or may not end up wishing you'd just gotten your ass beaten instead, because you won't feel like a "masculine" badass martial artist movie hero (or whatever delusional larger-than-life role you're projecting onto yourself today) when you're sitting on a cot in a maximum security cell surrounded by ACTUAL thugs and badasses who tower you and will bash your face in for looking at them wrong. And guess what else? You won't have any guns to save you in prison.

I've never met a single man who considered being a "smaller target" for gunfire an advantage. I'm acquainted with a 5'3" Army veteran who served in a combat role in Afghanistan on Operation Enduring Freedom, and he regularly mentioned how his squad experience was absolute dog  because of his height. Squadmates didn't respect him, even people from other squads fked with him for fun. He's never once mentioned anything about being a "smaller target" and I'm sure he'd probably laugh his ass off if I suggested it was an "advantage".

This whole premise is stupid to begin with. Gunfights don't work the way you think they do. Cover exists. Nobody shoots from a position where they're open in real life unless they're total retards, and if that's the case, you're as good as dead no matter how "small" of a target you are. What a joke.

Yeah, I wasn't talking a short man pulling a gun on an unarmed taller man because he can't beat him in a fight with his bare hands. "Gunfighting" means both parties are armed.

What we see in movies is mostly representative of what happens in real life. If no one called Charles Bronson a fag because he shoots people in movies, then sure as hell no one gonna call you that for using a gun at the right time.

And a little girl would fly firing a gun.