Got lazy and skipped a few leg days, got back to it the other day and forgot how crippling DOMS could be for legs. I couldn't bend my legs, lift them up, walk properly, etc. For example, putting on pants is debilitating, getting up out of a chair is slow and painful and forget about sleep because turning over with sore hamstrings and glutes is a nightmare.
I am not saying LL and DOMS are the same, I pray for you if you're stupid enough to jump to conclusions so quickly. The symptoms are similar enough that I thought a thread on suggesting everyone to go train their legs to failure for a day might give them some idea or perspective of what might come, could be easier could be worse, I don't know as I have not done LL, maybe someone who has and works out can chime in with their experience on this matter.
Should it be similar to post LL, you guys will get 2-4 days of what it might be like and decide you can't go 3,4,5+ months, I don't know, but even if not, go fùckïng work out and get in shape, judging from how most of you guys are on the proportions subforum you need it. Also inb4 pain meds.
Seems like no one has interest in this lol
I guess most of you guys rather go into LL blind and hope for the best.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/2uel19/what_is_your_worst_doms_story/
https://www.reddit.com/r/xxfitness/comments/8786an/your_worstinsane_doms_story/
https://www.reddit.com/r/bodybuilding/comments/2p4fgw/worst_doms_experience/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/377gvm/whats_the_worst_doms_youve_ever_had/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/1bwt1b/fittit_whats_the_worse_case_of_doms_youve_ever_had/
If you guys can't get through 2-4 days of DOMS in your legs with unbroken bones, how do you guys know for sure you're ready for LL? Just because you spent a lot of time here reading, is that really enough?
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on December 08, 2019, 03:17:20 AMAs someone who weightlifts since I was a teenager and had LL with Dr. Betz years ago (9cm on left femur, 10cm on right femur) I can chime on this.
DOMS and LL pain are NOTHING alike. Not even close. DOMS is actually a "good" pain to feel.
The different types of pains you will have during LL are not "good", you won't feel a sense of accomplishment like when you're having DOM. You will sick and run to your painkillers or you fight to not cry.
And I say "pains" (plural) because you will have different types of pains: stretching pain, abductor pain, nerve pain, etc.. One very different than the other.
So sorry, DOMS is not a good way to see if you will handle LL well or not.
Having the leg broken in a accident would be a more similar experience.
If by a "good" pain you mean the light soreness you get if you're active and remained so then that's not the level of DOMS I'm talking about. I'm talking about taking a month or 2 off and then jumping back in heavy and to failure.
I'm not making comparisons to levels of pain but rather I'm comparing quality of life issues, lowering yourself to sit and getting off a seat or toilet or walking up/down stairs being difficult, waking up because you need to turn over, etc.
I don't see what's wrong suggesting people to go workout and have some sort of crippling experience in their legs, it might change some people's minds on LL, or would you rather people go in blind and hope for the best?
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on December 08, 2019, 10:47:05 PMNo, I'm not talking about that. Dude, I've been weightlifting since I was 16 and I'm in my late 30s.
I never had to take 2 months off, but I had to take two or three weeks off in some occasions due to Doms.
And that's exactly what I'm not talking about either, I know what level of DOMS you're talking about, a little bit of soreness even after destroying your body the day before because you're consistently lifting. This isn't DOMS that you can kill with a cold shower and doesn't get in the way of everyday life. I've taken time off before and like those in those Reddit posts, the DOMS on muscles that hasn't been active like previously is not just a bit of soreness, it's extremely sore, your legs are stiff/can't bend, same with arms they stay in t-rex position, etc. If you skip leg day for a few weeks and go back in heavy to failure, you're going to wish you didn't.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on December 09, 2019, 07:32:10 AMI'm not talking about soreness, I'm talking DOMS exactly like these: stiff/can't bend, arms super hard to move, body all painful and limited mobility, etc... No one stops 2 or 3 weeks just for soreness.
Yet...it is not even close to the pain I felt during LL. I didn't need Opioids for DOMS, I did FOR MONTHS during LL. Big difference.
To be fair with you, reading the Stryde's diaries it seems what they have is more similar to DOMS than the excruciating pain me and my fellow LLérs had to endure 7 years ago with Betzbone1.
In my first post I mentioned DOMS this bad is only a few days, the few week stuff is if you were inactive then jumped back into heavy lifting.
Quote from: ZUCC420 on December 13, 2019, 07:40:31 PMYou're so ignorant and obnoxious that I won't waste any effort to set you straight, do whatever you like.
Lol I tried to respect his experience but he really does come off like whatever he say can't be wrong but clearly he isn't all there in the head. The clown got CLL to lose his vcard lol guess all that gymceling wasn't working out for him.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on January 29, 2020, 04:24:44 AMIt wasn't one of the reasons for my CLL, it is was THE REASON. When you are below the 5% in terms of height for a man (165cm or 5'5''in my case) it's really tough in the dating market.
Oh btw, if you ain't sore you ain't work out hard enough pal.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on March 19, 2020, 09:28:58 PMBelieve what you want believe dude. If you think breaking your legs and stretching them for months is just like having DOMS, fine. Keep thinking that.
You'll never know the answer anyway because: 1) you don't have money for LL; 2) even if you had, you don't have courage to do it.
You’re assuming a lot there buddy. Nobody is saying it’s like DOMS, I’m suggesting to the idiots here to go work out and see if they can deal with even a few days of soreness before they jump in blind and break their legs. I got money and no need to do this surgery, no desire either especially after seeing all the mentally challenged people on this site, the misinformation and lames like you.
You got the courage to show your face to everyone here or let chicks know you got the surgery? Or are you one of those lames who want to hide and pretend they were never short after getting CLL?
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