The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm

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It seems, more and more people are now waking up and preferring recovery and athleticism.
Our targets are no longer 8,9,10 cms in one limb but rather 5 cm in femur and tibs.

I think this is good. It is just silly to ruin your body just to reach a silly dream created by the the discrimination that we have endured.

What really opened my eyes were;
OldiebutGoldie (6cm) doing skiing just like that. He looked so normal and so recovered, yet it wasnt even 1 year post-op!
Crazy+6 (9cm or something), guy never recovered.
Apotheosis and Tall (did 20cm on two surgeries) - they are both shy of posting videoes. Apo/sysop is posting some strange jogging video which looks so weird.
Few other horror examples from india which I wont mention.

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the most scary part about Crazy6+'s diary were the mind-boggling positive comments that people posted. I don't know if it was to obey the law and orders of old forum  or not, but I remember when crazy posted a full shot of his body. It looked like he was on stilts. I swear to God, I never seen any person more disproportionate and off-looking. It was a pic taken of him from behind, where he was standing in front of a bed and held his crutches midway up in air.

I cannot remember a single person tell the truth to him. Does anyone still have that pic?

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There is a common denominator for all the people having issues after LL: externals

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Quote from: Tall on February 19, 2014, 01:36:17 AMHave you heard of a patient named Amatan... Or Apotheosis for that matter? One had a non-lengthening precise, the other had a "weight-bearing" betzbone nail break, then had a non-union.

we are talking about permanent or long-term complications. Not technical issues with the hardware.

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Quote from: orlandoflorida on February 19, 2014, 01:57:38 PMAnother common denominator:   malfunction of internal devices and internals rods breaking.     

Ok everyone. Without letting this get out of hand. I thought the topic was long-term / permanent complications with the BODY not the hardware. Yes amatans precice malfunctioned, but that is fixed. it doesnt mean he is going to have long tern knee issues or ankle issues.
Same with all the betz nail bending or breaking. They get titanium replacement and they are back dancing (andrew) and skiing (oldie).

But in external patients case, alot have long term problems with their body. All the people who reported it in this thread did, externals no?

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on February 18, 2014, 03:42:14 PMI concur with this doctor's opinion.  I was hoping the nail removal would improve my knee pain but it did not.

so after 7 years, you still have knee pain caused by LL?

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Quote from: FrankGarrett on February 19, 2014, 04:41:39 PMRod inserted inside tibia bone = permanent knee pain.

It can happen whether you do internals or external.

so all the 100 000 people who undergoes tibial lengthening or correction due to trauma, deformity, dwarfisism are all suffering permanent knee pain.
it all makes sense now. 

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Quote from: Kilokahn on February 19, 2014, 08:49:59 PMThis one?

(Normally I wouldn't post pics from that site, but since Gladiator2012 and Sysop refused to take down pics from Disobedient's friend on old forum , it's only fair).

yes thats the one. holy fukcing  .. if anyone needs a warning against disproportion, that pic should be shown first.

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Quote from: Daylight on February 21, 2014, 01:10:17 PMWith the born of this topic, I believe this forum is now officially superior to old forum . We are the people who can look at the reality in its eyes and make a wise decision. People on old forum  are a bunch of poor delusional people mislead by Apo. This is how CLL evolves guy. I really hope that more and more people will join the " no more than 5cm/segment" club, so we wont have to witness anymore heartbroken stories in the future. Now I only use old forum  to check on Sweden's diary.

guys, lets not make this a old forum  bashing topic. We have other threads for that. In fact old forum  is dying. The user activity is now way below this forum. I just hope Apo doesnt kill it. Way too valuable information there for newbies. I know someone here zipped it but unless the files in the zip is posted in a organized structure its not really comparable to old forum .

Remember we all started at old forum . I am grateful even though Apo permbanned me

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Quote from: old forum PartyLeaks on February 21, 2014, 05:02:27 PMThe zip file contains a surfable archive of the site. If you haven't downloaded it yet, do it, the more people have it on their hard drives the better, just in case. Searching in it is not that easy unless you index all the files with some kind of html parsing software, but when browsing through it, it should "behave" exactly like the online forum does except for everything being read-only and static and from last year, obviously.

ok, I think I downloaded the zip for a long time ago (as you said, just in case) but I never bothered to check out the contents.