Try therapy

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Drinking makes you happy with your body the way it is. I suggest that as an alternative to therapy.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on November 12, 2015, 06:15:06 PMNope, that was my goof. He advised against tibias, and only tibias. He says that my "best option" to get a bit taller is one more inch on femurs and that my proportions won't be that bad. He had said a lot of his patients started shorted than me, and did 10cm+ and look ok. He showed me a pic of one of them (face blurred out) and the guy looks great in clothes (as do I, and I think I would even after 2.5cm more)...but nked might be another story.

Maybe I'm overestimating tibias, but they just scare me, even before Dr. G said what he said. He basically said tibias can take a very long time to heal, and sometimes are still healing after a year. And he said that my femurs healed kind of slow (by his standards, I suppose), and for that reason, he thinks tibias will take super long for me.

I know that more LL is 100% in my future...I just don't know what form it will take. I really do not want a gap on my resume...if I were rich/just out of college/had my own company then no problem - but that isn't the case for me.

I'll figure it out eventually.


Honestly Yellow, I have two pieces of advice for you.

First, I can understand the need to be average or what not. After all you're not that far from it, and it would feel good to be part of a bigger group. However, I don't think that you should beat yourself over and over about it. I don't know how it's personally like for you being 5'8ish, but I can tell you that you're already at great height. My first advice would be in the mindset of don't do any more LL, try to find a nice hobby that takes your mind of your neurosis. 5'8 is shorter then average...but by an inch and a half; and really no one who isn't 6'+ can call you short in the same manner society calls men below 5'7 short. Another thing, don try beat yourself over not being at that average; 1 inch of difference isn't worth it jumping from 5'8 to 5'9 (but again I respect your own view on this) if I'd have to endure the trauma of LL.

My second advice, still pertaining to the notion of not rushing to do LL, but if you absolutely feel like you have to...I'd recommend going the tibia route. Sure this route is father away but at the same time it can be the most rewarding if you seek to go an extra cm or two where's you can't do that in your femurs. It will also ensure less trauma for your thighs already and better proportionality (it's underrated but extremely important). Another benefit from this would be that maybe as your saving up for tibia operation and you miraculously decide against it and lose your neurosis.

My humble opinion. Best wishes.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on November 12, 2015, 06:15:06 PMI know that more LL is 100% in my future...I just don't know what form it will take.

The question is: is it really safe to lengthen 10cm?  Even if it's 2 ops, it is still the same nerves, tendons, etc. and they have a limit.  I would do 4-5cm in tibs, that would bring you to 5'10" and restore your proportions.  The only downside are the scars.

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I sincerely appreciate everyone's kind words. Thank you.

Nothing will change the way I feel. No amount of therapy or positive speaking is going to make a difference. It's a bit funny, though, how some people on here taller than me (who also want LL) are trying to tell me that 5'8" is ok. I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I mean, you guys are above 5'9"...you don't even really need LL, but I respect everyone's choice to do as they please (I know everyone has their particular reasons).

Whenever you hear articles and the media talk about "short men"...it's usually men under 5'8" or (I would argue more often) men under 5'9". Unlike many on here, I have had the short label my entire life, and I don't want it anymore. 5'8" is still objectively short by these standards (anything under 5'9", based on online dating, Hollywood "short male celeb" lists, articles that talk about how being short for men sucks always use 5'9" as the cutoff). After all I've been through, I will not settle for anything less than 5'9".

I just don't know how I'm going to pull off tibias without destroying my career. I'm not rich (though I can afford a second LL in cash right now) or have parents paying for my surgery or run my own company. I'm an average joe (maybe slightly above average, financially). I just wish I knew of a diary of someone who did a small amount on tibias (like 3.5-4cm tops) using an internal method, and how they recovered. I need this sh*t to be as fast as possible. Pain doesn't mean a thing to me, it's just the time factor.

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Yellowspike, perhaps you should email or talk to Dr. Monegal. He is extremely honest and has done more successful cases of cosmetic internal tibia lengthening than almost any other doctor. I'm sure he could give you valuable information/recommendations that carry much more stock than what anyone on this forum can give you.

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Quote from: Taller on November 13, 2015, 07:04:40 PMYellowspike, perhaps you should email or talk to Dr. Monegal. He is extremely honest and has done more successful cases of cosmetic internal tibia lengthening than almost any other doctor. I'm sure he could give you valuable information/recommendations that carry much more stock than what anyone on this forum can give you.

Him and I have been talking. If Dr. Guichet won't change his mind on doing tibias on me (which still kind of scares me), Dr. Monegal is on my short list to do tibias (for just 1-1.5 inches tops) when the time comes.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on November 13, 2015, 07:32:48 PMHim and I have been talking. If Dr. Guichet won't change his mind on doing tibias on me (which still kind of scares me), Dr. Monegal is on my short list to do tibias (for just 1-1.5 inches tops) when the time comes.

Surgeons will do (and thus recommend) what procedures they are proficient at, Guichet doesn't do tibias but that doesn't mean it is dangerous in and of itself.

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Quote from: Uppland on November 13, 2015, 08:50:37 PMSurgeons will do (and thus recommend) what procedures they are proficient at, Guichet doesn't do tibias but that doesn't mean it is dangerous in and of itself.

You are right, but I believe Dr. Guichet does do tibias. At least, based on the conversations I've had with him, it sounds like he does (but he seems to strongly prefer femurs, and does femurs 95% of the time). If he does do tibias, I have no idea what method he uses.

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Dr Birkholtz also seems a safe option for internal tibias if you want to go that route.

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I think it's also worth mentioning that if one goes into therapy with the attitude that it definitely won't work, then you destroy any chance it may have had of working before you even start. You have to believe that it may fix your height neurosis, or at least put your insecurity vs how much height alone actually affects you into perspective.