Quote from: DanishViking on September 29, 2023, 01:48:47 PMGrowGrow123 - Your're the joke who has a bias against Turkish surgeons just because they're turkish nothing more... Talk about having double standards accusing me of having a bias. But congrats 2% more women in the US wanna match with you on tinder who of course has the best morals / personality in the world and women definitely before couldn't live with the fact that you were only 12 cm taller than them. Now that you're 18 cm taller than them it makes the huge difference that makes them swarm around you.
Guys don't accuse me of having a bias, when all of you don't like AFA just because they're turkish nothing more. That's having double standards to the point that it should be illegal.
Why are you making this personal, lol? I had height dysphoria. Financially, the money wasn't an issue. So I fixed it. No more LL for me. I'm happy with just femurs. I hope you have the same positive quality of life experience that I did.
I explicitly said that I don't know if this Mustafa is a butcher or not. What I do know is three things:
1) Turkey's cosmetic surgery industry is corrupt and unregulated. It's a systemic issue that has little to do with any individual surgeon. You're simply uninformed if you believe the safety standards and regulations in Turkey are up to the standard set in either the US or the EU.
2) Medical school in Turkey is simply not up to the standard or vigor of medical school in the US. The best medical schools are here.
3) There just isn't a whole lot of cosmetic lengthening data points from AFA. It's hard to positively recommend a place with this being the case. If you believe otherwise, please inform us. When you search for Dr. Mustafa patient experiences on this site, you get a page or two of results and most of those results are LON. When you search for Debiparshad on this site, you get many many pages of results and none of them are LON.
My guess is that you'll be okay. The biggest issue with Turkey seems to be infections which won't be an issue for you since you're doing Precice. And most people, in general, do not get complications statistically-speaking. However, we only really see if a surgeon is worth their salt when complications do arise...
Quote from: Maison on September 29, 2023, 04:12:37 PMI don't know much about AFA, so I won't mention it.
But I don't think Debiparshad is a good doctor.
Have you read this GQ article?
Debiparshad's patient in this article has an obvious knock-knee.
https://www.gq.com/story/leg-lengthening
https://media.gq.com/photos/6320e424989415f64c739a3c/master/w_1600,c_limit/GQ1022_LegLengthing_04c.jpg
I support Paley's opinion.
Look, Debiparshad is not my surgeon. I have no bias here.
Credentials-wise, Debiparshad is about as good as it gets. He went to medical school at McGill University (the best university in Canada). He did a fellowship at Harvard University. He did a fellowship under Paley at his institute lol. Paley and Debiparshad have written papers together! He was literally trained by Paley, but you think he is a bad doctor? Come on, now.
What I do think is a valid criticism of Dr. D is that he's relatively inexperienced compared to guys like Paley and Rozbruch. He's only 41 years old. Any new surgeon is still going to be developing their skills and he's only been doing CLL's full-time on his own since 2016 or so. This criticism gets weaker and weaker every year he practices though. While we don't have exact numbers, the articles online seem to suggest he does anywhere from 50-100 CLL's every year at minimum.
Just search for patient experiences on this site for Dr. D. There's many pages worth. And, from what I can, see it's all rather positive.
I don't think we can infer too much from that GQ pic. We don't know what the end result for that patient was. For all we know, that patient bent their nails and didn't follow instructions. We don't know.
Quote from: GrowGrow123 on September 29, 2023, 08:51:49 PMLook, Debiparshad is not my surgeon. I have no bias here.
Credentials-wise, Debiparshad is about as good as it gets. He went to medical school at McGill University (the best university in Canada). He did a fellowship at Harvard University. He did a fellowship under Paley at his institute lol. Paley and Debiparshad have written papers together! He was literally trained by Paley, but you think he is a bad doctor? Come on, now.
What I do think is a valid criticism of Dr. D is that he's relatively inexperienced compared to guys like Paley and Rozbruch. He's only 41 years old. Any new surgeon is still going to be developing their skills and he's only been doing CLL's full-time on his own since 2016 or so. This criticism gets weaker and weaker every year he practices though. While we don't have exact numbers, the articles online seem to suggest he does anywhere from 50-100 CLL's every year at minimum.
Just search for patient experiences on this site for Dr. D. There's many pages worth. And, from what I can, see it's all rather positive.
I don't think we can infer too much from that GQ pic. We don't know what the end result for that patient was. For all we know, that patient bent their nails and didn't follow instructions. We don't know.
Maybe Dr. D is great. However, I believe Dr. P made the point, of all the x-rays Dr. D could've used he picked one where the patients alignment got botched...
Quote from: EndGame on September 29, 2023, 09:40:08 PMMaybe Dr. D is great. However, I believe Dr. P made the point, of all the x-rays Dr. D could've used he picked one where the patients alignment got botched...
I mentioned this earlier already. Paley is not an objective source here. It’s completely unprofessional of him to make comments like that. His problem with Debiparshad stems from the fact that Dr. D left his institute and published a paper with Paley’s name under his name (which Paley took as an insult since he wanted his name above Dr. D’s).
We don’t know how that patient ended up so you can’t say he was botched. People were saying the same thing about Hulk from LLT. He had what appeared to be knock knees on his last x-rays, but it went away on its own (but not the ballerina feet).
As to why he chose that particular photo? Who knows. Maybe it was the only quadrilateral patient he had at the time willing to let him use the photo.
I’m not arguing Dr. D is as good as Paley. He’s not. But he’s definitely nowhere near as bad as the butchers in Turkey.
Quote from: GrowGrow123 on September 29, 2023, 08:51:49 PMLook, Debiparshad is not my surgeon. I have no bias here.
Credentials-wise, Debiparshad is about as good as it gets. He went to medical school at McGill University (the best university in Canada). He did a fellowship at Harvard University. He did a fellowship under Paley at his institute lol. Paley and Debiparshad have written papers together! He was literally trained by Paley, but you think he is a bad doctor? Come on, now.
What I do think is a valid criticism of Dr. D is that he's relatively inexperienced compared to guys like Paley and Rozbruch. He's only 41 years old. Any new surgeon is still going to be developing their skills and he's only been doing CLL's full-time on his own since 2016 or so. This criticism gets weaker and weaker every year he practices though. While we don't have exact numbers, the articles online seem to suggest he does anywhere from 50-100 CLL's every year at minimum.
Just search for patient experiences on this site for Dr. D. There's many pages worth. And, from what I can, see it's all rather positive.
I don't think we can infer too much from that GQ pic. We don't know what the end result for that patient was. For all we know, that patient bent their nails and didn't follow instructions. We don't know.
I searched for Dr. D's experience stories on this forum, but couldn't find any tibial patients.
I believe it is important to have the ability to use blocking screws when necessary to maintain tibial alignment.
Paley, Rozbruch, Assayag can use blocking screws.
There is no blocking screw in the tibia in the GQ X-ray, so even if there is no nail bend, there is a possibility that the patient has a knock knee.
The femur is technically easier than the tibia because malalignment rarely occurs.
If I saw the x-rays where Dr. D put the blocking screw into the tibia, I would trust him more.
Quote from: Maison on September 30, 2023, 12:23:11 AMI searched for Dr. D's experience stories on this forum, but couldn't find any tibial patients.
I believe it is important to have the ability to use blocking screws when necessary to maintain tibial alignment.
Paley, Rozbruch, Assayag can use blocking screws.
That's totally valid. If I wanted to do tibias and I couldn't find any patient experiences from a surgeon doing tibias, then I wouldn't choose that surgeon.
Whats about betz?.. you said so many people got screw it from him, you bash all doctora.. at this point I dont think there is any good doctor on the market, is like that. Is kind of a luck because there is not a perfect doctor, never will be and this is just the lind of operation is like that LL, why betz?.. yes the guy is old now, but the only problem with him at least what I have read is rhat he exceded some limits in the lenght.. just that even paley I have read bad things
Quote from: Rockstarz5 on September 30, 2023, 01:12:15 AM
Whats about betz?.. you said so many people got screw it from him, you bash all doctora.. at this point I dont think there is any good doctor on the market, is like that. Is kind of a luck because there is not a perfect doctor, never will be and this is just the lind of operation is like that LL, why betz?.. yes the guy is old now, but the only problem with him at least what I have read is rhat he exceded some limits in the lenght.. just that even paley I have read bad things
Betz is retired.
Well his succesor.. there is a diary on instagram where the dude did tibia of 3 inches and doing fine, and also a german celebrity and all good qith her, but all its seems in this forum is wrong.. my point is that there is no any good doctors, period
Well his succesor.. there is a diary on instagram where the dude did tibia of 3 inches and doing fine, and also a german celebrity and all good qith her, but all its seems in this forum is wrong.. my point is that there is no any good doctors, period
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