Quote from: Thatdude950 on January 05, 2016, 11:19:16 AMA lot of diaries have ambiguous endings under or around a year after lengthening. I've added the ones that stand out - clear positives, clear negatives, or outcomes that were at least updated signifantly after lengthening. There are so many diaries to read. This is probably 10% or so of them, if not less. Hopefully this is useful. Feel free to add others. If you're here & not happy with what I've said, I will add in your response.
Good outcomes:
ShyShy - Happy with result, no further surgery.
Medium Drink of Water - Happy with result, no further surgery.
badboy - Happy with result
Apo - Happy with result (my opinion - good aesthetics, very slow running)
Hannah84 - Happy with result
stillyoung - Happy with result
Lara - Happy with result
upinthesky - Happy with result
Neutral outcomes:
Smallguy - Required further corrective surgery but seems happy with the overall result.
Tdot - Decided to have further surgery
The_Rock - Happy with outcome, but running is ~70% of pre LL ability, explosiveness 40 - 50% (unacceptable in my opinion)
Growing - Happy with result, but has not recovered athletically after ~3 years.
Ocean - Required further corrective surgery but seems happy with the overall result.
Body Builder - Happy with outcome, but says his athletic ability was significantly diminished.
Dryani - Seems happy, but has not done more than walk +2 years after LL. Athletic ability also seems significantly diminished.
Poor outcomes:
Walk6 - Unhappy with post LL functionality
RGKEY - Moderate deformation, loss of functionality, further surgery planned (I believe?)
OldieButGoodie - Unhappy with post LL functionality.
Greekster - Unacceptable recovery after 3 years, multiple lengthenings.
daigoro - Serious complications - corrective surgery required (callus fracture), loss of functionality
Emanuel- Serious complications, multiple corrective surgeries, loss of functionality
Master Hy- Serious complications - multiple corrective surgeries ($250,000 + financial loss), loss of function
Crimsontide - Serious complications - multiple corrective surgeries, loss of functionality
programdude - Serious complications - Leg snapped post lengthening, corrective surgery required.
Yellowspike - Continued height neurosis, looking at further surgery
Polycrates - Regret, continuance (worsening?) of BDD symptoms re: proportions
Sweden - Unhappy with post LL function, continuance (worsening?) of BDD symptoms re: proportions, considering further surgery
blackbear - Serious complications - multiple corrective surgeries, loss of functionality
crazy+6 - Serious complications, corrective surgeries, multiple lengthenings, loss of functionality
Strugglinghard - Serious complications, loss of functionality
Unknown outcomes of note
Leechlet - Dissapeared abruptly.
Big D - stopped posting after 6 months, but on a positive note.
Other outcomes
mmm_native - multiple corrective surgeries & loss of function. Initially lengthened with an uknown doctor in Iran.
prince2 - 1.5 years post lengthening he still is not allowed (able?) to run, but seems to be happy & getting better.
Wow thatdude. Good work you've done here lol.
I actually AM happy with my result. I made it to my initial realistic goal of 5'8". And, aside from the my left screw issue (hope to get it fixed soon), my recovery is very good (though not perfect). Soft tissue recovery takes a while, but stretching has been helping me so much. I'm just happy I was complication-free (unless you count the left screw issue). I'm just not satisfied. But I guess we're saying the same thing.
Also, even though I use a machine (makes it easier/safer, since squatting is harder with long femurs) and not a free barbell, I can squat 285 lbs right now 
I would more say my outcome was good physically (would have been closer to ShyShy if not for the left screw and the fact that I had to sit/work a lot during clicking), but didn't solve the height neuroris.
i think death case is more a myth than a reality
but there must surely be some cases
Thanks, this is a great resource
awww
people don't like the truth
Sweden is another one that says how it really is. He doesn't post much, but he clearly says his life has been pretty much ruined
Could go on and on.
There's 1 major difference between me, and the majority of other posters that have gotten this surgery
I tell it like it is. I'm not the only one, but I say what's on my mind, while most of the others say how they wished it were.
big difference
Sweden is another.. The guy can't even use his foot!!! Will it ever be better? Perhaps, perhaps not
will bluebarbie ever recover? Perhaps, perhaps not
will kirkp1? perhaps,perhaps not
Let's see some of these videos from patients doing wonderfully
People don't like that I'm crushing their dream.
Oh well, tough
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obviously I hurt someone's feelings
GOOD
we should start a thread which goes through EVERY ll patient thread on this site, and see if it ended well
i'd like to see how many patients are both done with recovery, and had a good final outcome... and have videos to prove it
I think the % will be less than 1%
but let's do it.
let;s go through some diaries now
rgkey
mine
swden
bluebarbie
disobedient
copper
yellowspike
doingitforme
inmylife
at ths moment,how many of those can be called a success?
kilokahn
yagen
musicmaker
krkp1
how many are done and fully recovered?
think the answer is 0
Let's see some actual evidence that even 10% of LL patients have a successful outcome
Actual video evidence
I've seen 2 users post multiple videos
1- sweden
2- rgkey
neither of them has what what I'd consider a positive outcome
Where's the evidence?
Any video purporting to show a positive outcome needs to show at the minimum
1- walking up and downstairs fairly normally
2- leg exercises, such as squatting to parallel
3- normal jogging or running
that's the minimum. No video can show more than a few minutes, so we really can't know how well someone is doing throughout a full day, but if they can't perform the 3 activities listed above, we can safely conclude that the outcome is not positive
Any video should also show evidence of the surgery... being in an external fixator is an obvious method of verification... A little less obvious would be scars consistent with one having had the surgery
I already know we won't have these videos, and that's the point
There's very little evidence of patients having great outcomes
Anyone that disagrees... Fine, prove me wrong
My standards are so high...
walking downstairs normally
quasi normal jogging or running
ability to to do basic leg exercises
If these activities are considered too extreme for LL patients, that proves my point
Quote from: crimsontide on March 12, 2016, 11:49:30 PM
My standards are so high...
walking downstairs normally
quasi normal jogging or running
ability to to do basic leg exercises
If these activities are considered too extreme for LL patients, that proves my point
Given the obesity rate in the united states and the amount of men willing to shoot up steroids to look better, or even self injecting melataonon to get a better tan. Or how people really are fake in general let's face it going to the club no one cares about anything woman want a tall guy. They don't care how he looks as long as you hide the LL your gonna do better. If that is what people want to get better at those sort of situations as they don't want to get married or have kids let them.
Many American also cannot do those things, and actually most people can't do a single pull up or chin up correctly.
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