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Posted on Oct 21, 2013, 11:30 am
#31

Quote from: short_and_depressed on October 21, 2013, 05:59:17 AMMime, I hope you didn't miss my post.
May I ask you what your source of information about SysOp's real name and arm-lengthening odyssey is?


Hi,

Sorry but i cannot disclose my source in an open forum.

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Posted on Oct 23, 2013, 5:07 pm
#32

wow, this is valuable information.
I was hellbent on doing Betz. Now I am more in favor of Guichet.

Agree that those abruptly ending diaries on old forum  were suspicious. Especially stillyoungs last post "yes, i am here" which probably was posted by sysOP.

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Posted on Oct 23, 2013, 10:56 pm
#33

Quote from: handy on September 30, 2013, 09:37:18 PMThis quote is very misleading! Very few people have the bone canal to naturally support the full 13mm nail. The only way Dr. Betz can make enough room for the 13mm nail is to ream the inside of your bone far more than is recommended for someone whose bone canal should have the 11mm nail.

There are plenty of patients who have had the 13mm and still bent or broke the nails and screws. Dr. Betz simply has his patients weight bear too early and often regardless of the diameter of the nail that is used for lengthening. There are so many examples within the Dr. Betz diaries (both hidden and out in the open) and countless more when you visit Dr. Betz in Germany and talk with his patients.


How long has the 13mm nail been around for?

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Posted on Oct 25, 2013, 7:17 pm
#34

Hello Frank,

Betz uses his own nails since 2011. The 13mm is of course better than the 11mm, however there are still many cases with nail bending and fractions even long time after finishing clicking.

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Posted on Nov 18, 2013, 7:20 pm
#35

This is getting absolutely ridiculous how many patients need to get the titanium nail replacement with Dr. Betz! Absolute rip off over there at the Betz Institute that you have to pay $25,000 because the Betzbone constantly bends and breaks!

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Posted on Nov 19, 2013, 1:44 am
#36

Quote from: Rodosil on November 18, 2013, 07:20:48 PMThis is getting absolutely ridiculous how many patients need to get the titanium nail replacement with Dr. Betz! Absolute rip off over there at the Betz Institute that you have to pay $25,000 because the Betzbone constantly bends and breaks!


Seriously.  Why spend so much on crap that you'll eventually need replaced when you can just pay more upfront to start off with titanium? (ie PRECICE).

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Posted on Nov 20, 2013, 12:27 am
#37

God, it's scary how many broken nails are being reported with the Betzbone.

Y'know what's even scarier?  That SysOp/Apotheosis continues to push it on old forum  when he's profiting off the misery of others.

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Posted on Nov 23, 2013, 4:12 pm
#38

Quote from: BilateralDamage on November 20, 2013, 12:27:35 AMGod, it's scary how many broken nails are being reported with the Betzbone.

Y'know what's even scarier?  That SysOp/Apotheosis continues to push it on old forum  when he's profiting off the misery of others.


Agree 100% with you! It's disgusting to watch Apotheosis/Sysop and Dr. Betz willing to make patients guinea pigs so they can line their pockets with money!

Trust me when I say the bent and broken nails and screws with the Betzbone are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to complications with Dr. Betz and the Betzbone...

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Posted on Nov 23, 2013, 4:37 pm
#39

Quote from: Rivers on November 23, 2013, 04:12:11 PMTrust me when I say the bent and broken nails and screws with the Betzbone are only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to complications with Dr. Betz and the Betzbone...


Tell us everything you know!

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Posted on Dec 21, 2013, 1:12 pm
#40

hello everybody,

I have been a member of old forum  since 2009. I was there when old forum  was running the forum, and when he gave the steering wheel to SysOp. I think the forum has changed a lot since its beginning, mostly this year. Lot of suppressed post, communication between members cut off. I don't trust it anymore. But I can remember it has  not been  always like that. I think old forum  was fair, and maybe Sysop at the beginning.

Anyway, I have some questions:

1/if this forum want to be fair and honnest, how will the traffic be funded and managed? old forum  got tired to supervise teh forum and I can really unserstand it. The involvement of SysOp (he is almost always connected, as a full time job.... ) is clearly suspect.

2/could we gather our knowledge about former patient (met in REAL please, after consultation) in order to guess rough statistics about the rate of complications.

The only thing I am 100% sure about Betz is Hanna's case, because I met her after the op, and whaen I saw her, she was ok. There were two others guys, one had a complication with the nail (bend/broken I don't remember)

3/ Have you ever heard/met some cases of extremes complications, like limb loss, paralysis, or serious similar handicap...?



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