Yeah genetically if you don't have wide clavicles, the only way to "look wider" is to add muscle to your shoulders, lats, serratus, and taper your waist. Also I agree with @wannabeidol, being in decent shape prior can drastically improve your rehab and recovery from surgery. Don't have to be huge, but fit helps and gets you into a good routine for the onslaught of post-op rehab
I cannot do weightlifting, I feel that people fooled me about it, they said that it would make me forget my lack of height, and after 10 years I started to feel that it was a waste of time and money. I cannot return if I am not tall first, I don't want to be fooled again. I don't want to be short and strong, only tall and strong.
Also, width gained with muscles can be lost if you stop weightlifting, it's fake width (for me), width gained making the bones longer is for ever.
I understand that having strong muscles can be helpful, but... I was fooled about that, It will be difficult to do weightlifting again, maybe some aerobic exercises. 
Never say "go to the gym" when someone is not satisfied with its stature.
True, sometimes going to the gym really won't help the height neurosis/insecurities.
However, going to the gym can make you more confident. Perhaps not enough to forget the bad things about being short, but enough so that you won't be completely obssessed and extremely insecure about height.
Basically, it's still a good thing to be short and buff and still insecure, than be short and insecure and out of shape. 😁
Yeah, the clavicle widthnening also would increase your armspan. Not just about muscles and illusion.
Quote from: Polvorón on September 15, 2020, 04:52:04 PMI cannot do weightlifting, I feel that people fooled me about it, they said that it would make me forget my lack of height, and after 10 years I started to feel that it was a waste of time and money. I cannot return if I am not tall first, I don't want to be fooled again. I don't want to be short and strong, only tall and strong.
Also, width gained with muscles can be lost if you stop weightlifting, it's fake width (for me), width gained making the bones longer is for ever.
I understand that having strong muscles can be helpful, but... I was fooled about that, It will be difficult to do weightlifting again, maybe some aerobic exercises.
Never say "go to the gym" when someone is not satisfied with its stature.
look were not saying go to the gym to feel better about your stature
were saying GET FIT OR YOUR LIMBLENGTHENING PROCEDURE WILL BE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT
like i understand that your stature is placing a mental block on getting other stuff done. but strengthening your whole body is an important step in preparing for the LL procedure.
ultimately its up to you its just advice. however if you do decide to go through with the surgery and struggle with pain and weight bearing, thats on you
Quote from: a on September 15, 2020, 06:55:26 PMYeah, the clavicle widthnening also would increase your armspan. Not just about muscles and illusion.
heres the thing, when it comes to strength training (especially in the realm of LL) there are no downsides to getting fitter and bigger shoulders/ more muscle. being fitter will simply improve your quality of life.
the thing here that people who dont exercise dont realise is: putting on muscle takes WORK, its not something that'll happen over night. its a LONG TERM INVESTMENT
yes it ultimatly wont make your arm span bigger, but it will still make your frame wider.
yes its sucks that you dont have a wider frame/clavicles. now the question is: what are you gonna do about it? are you gonna waste your time on an internet limblengthening forum whining and crying while nothing gets done? or are you gonna take active steps towards fixing your issue?
Quote from: Polvorón on September 13, 2020, 09:59:58 PMThank you, maybe it is difficult, but I think that it's better because it changes your skeleton, so you will look better after death or in X-rays too.
You’re right, that’s a huge advantage! 😂
Quote from: wannabeidol on September 15, 2020, 08:15:18 PMheres the thing, when it comes to strength training (especially in the realm of LL) there are no downsides to getting fitter and bigger shoulders/ more muscle. being fitter will simply improve your quality of life.
the thing here that people who dont exercise dont realise is: putting on muscle takes WORK, its not something that'll happen over night. its a LONG TERM INVESTMENT
yes it ultimatly wont make your arm span bigger, but it will still make your frame wider.
yes its sucks that you dont have a wider frame/clavicles. now the question is: what are you gonna do about it? are you gonna waste your time on an internet limblengthening forum whining and crying while nothing gets done? or are you gonna take active steps towards fixing your issue?
Yea the more I go on here I realize pitying yourself literally no one gives a shiet lol. The more you feel bad for yourself and whine it's like bro ok reincarnation doesn't exist so what u want us to do about it XD?
Quote from: wannabeidol on September 15, 2020, 08:15:18 PMheres the thing, when it comes to strength training (especially in the realm of LL) there are no downsides to getting fitter and bigger shoulders/ more muscle. being fitter will simply improve your quality of life.
the thing here that people who dont exercise dont realise is: putting on muscle takes WORK, its not something that'll happen over night. its a LONG TERM INVESTMENT
yes it ultimatly wont make your arm span bigger, but it will still make your frame wider.
yes its sucks that you dont have a wider frame/clavicles. now the question is: what are you gonna do about it? are you gonna waste your time on an internet limblengthening forum whining and crying while nothing gets done? or are you gonna take active steps towards fixing your issue?
No, you misunderstood me! Of course lifting will make you look wayyyyy better than skinny version of yourself. I was just wondering and wanted to talk about this topic. I'm not crying, I just wish I had wider shoulders, but i'm not obsessed or anything. Would never do clavicle widthnening even it was free.
Ik a lot of people with muscle mass and they look like beasts. They don't have a wide clavicle, they just lift. It still looks good.
My aim was to hit the gym in the first place! But I got more important things going on so, i scheduled it for later. Probably after a year from now on.
also thank you for your answer wannabeidol, you always help me.
Best Regards
Also what do you guys think about bicycling? I just bought a new one and I'm regularly cycling around the block. I think it's going to improve my leg muscles. My legs suck now lol. Sometimes after taking a sh-t I can't even stand still. My legs are weak.
I'm planning to keep my bicycling routine for a year. I think there would be a huge difference. But the question is, would it really get you "ready" for CLL? I think stretching at home and bicycling would be a great combo. 15 min stretching max, per day. No biggie.
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