22M - Told my mom about LL

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I'm 1.77 cm, I understand you very well. But 2 surgeries are very risky. Definitely stay away from the lon femur. Find a good doctor and I hope everything goes well.

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Quote from: AllinStryde on January 12, 2023, 03:20:47 PMThis is occurring because for the past few decades women have been increasingly demanding on the "6-foot-minimum-or-no-man-at-all" rule.  As this persists, children will only be taller and taller.  It's even getting to the point where the narrative is 6'2" now.  "Gotta have muh height" -women.

It definitely contributes to what I believe is my height dysphoria.

They don't really care about the height itself sadly, I believe they only care about the numbers/bragging right. The following scenario happened numerous times in my life. I usually have a small afro, coupled with very broad shoulders for my height and large wingspan, when I wear non-flat shoes I easily appear much taller than I am. I would be at a social event and a woman would seem interested, we would talk and at some point I get the "how tall are you?" question asked in a flirtatious way . The moment I say 5'10 I can immediately see the spark in their eyes disappear. After that I might as well be invisible.

I know my height was not an issue to some of these women before I mentioned it. I believe its some kind of social conditioning in place convincing women that a 6'0 is the minimum height to be a man. I don't think this problem exists to this extent in countries where the metric system is used (I believe they consider 180cm+ a good height usually). But because of how our monkey brains work we feel like the jump from 5'11 to 6'0 is much larger than 2.5 cm.

Honestly, I am growing more and more cynical regarding this subject...

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Quote from: sierra on January 12, 2023, 01:02:06 AMI can sympathize with your situation.

The average height of young males < 25 years has somehow skyrocketed in affluent regions, even including ethnic groups.

My post-LL height is 175 cm, and I’m still noticeably shorter where there are younger men, ie gym, cafes, dog parks.

I don't get why people think height has been skyrocketing in the past decade ( this is somewhat of a phenomenon I encountered both in the US and Korea - people saying high school students are super tall now ) when studies and graph regarding average height in the US and generally across the developed world indicates that height peaked in the 90s and have even slighthly went down since then.

My own hypothesis is people that are generally shorter probably only see people taller than them so they just make the assumption that height is just increasing ( something that people in the mid 1900s encountered but not for us ).

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Quote from: the188cmdream on January 12, 2023, 04:10:08 PMIt definitely contributes to what I believe is my height dysphoria.

They don't really care about the height itself sadly, I believe they only care about the numbers/bragging right. The following scenario happened numerous times in my life. I usually have a small afro, coupled with very broad shoulders for my height and large wingspan, when I wear non-flat shoes I easily appear much taller than I am. I would be at a social event and a woman would seem interested, we would talk and at some point I get the "how tall are you?" question asked in a flirtatious way . The moment I say 5'10 I can immediately see the spark in their eyes disappear. After that I might as well be invisible.

I know my height was not an issue to some of these women before I mentioned it. I believe its some kind of social conditioning in place convincing women that a 6'0 is the minimum height to be a man. I don't think this problem exists to this extent in countries where the metric system is used (I believe they consider 180cm+ a good height usually). But because of how our monkey brains work we feel like the jump from 5'11 to 6'0 is much larger than 2.5 cm.

Honestly, I am growing more and more cynical regarding this subject...

That's exactly the reason why a lot of guys lie about their height and inflate it by 2 inches.  A lot of women don't actually even know what an actual 6 feet looks like.  Just imagine a 5'4 woman who has a preference for 6'+.  That difference is 8 inches.  You can imagine trying to predict the height of someone 8 inches taller than you.  It's actually hard as f*ck and becomes harder the bigger the height difference relative to you.   

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Quote from: Confidence on January 12, 2023, 09:35:48 PMThat's exactly the reason why a lot of guys lie about their height and inflate it by 2 inches.  A lot of women don't actually even know what an actual 6 feet looks like.  Just imagine a 5'4 woman who has a preference for 6'+.  That difference is 8 inches.  You can imagine trying to predict the height of someone 8 inches taller than you.  It's actually hard as f*ck and becomes harder the bigger the height difference relative to you.

Reminds me of a time when a 5'6 friend told me he was 5'7 even though he was clearly shorter than other people that were 5'7. He even whipped out his drivers license that indicated he was 5'7 to make a case but in the US you can write your own height down for your license.

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Mommy boy go do your surgery, don't waste your time here

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I don’t really think you’ll get much hate. Your thoughts are probably shared by many in this forum. Myself included.

If I was 5’10 I would definitely invest in other areas of my life where I could see marginally bigger improvements with relatively low to none downside (risk). First of all being getting super good at some trade and make a good living (5’10 with good income…. You get all the girls you want). Plus with that expertise come recognition (this is usually in a work environment) which in turn boosts your confidence and make you feel really accomplished.

And the obvious go to the gym and maximise that already tall frame that you’ve got.