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Posted on May 10, 2014, 1:42 am
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Kilokahn Is Going To India

It is almost a shock that I am finally able to get started on writing this patient experience after so many unexpected events led me to postponing my trip. My landlord kicked all the tenants out of our building suddenly, followed by projects stalling me at work that required me to stay and take care of them. My planned September, 2013 flight to India was postponed indefinitely as a result. Fortunately, after keeping my mind on working and taking care of my priorities, I am now booked for a flight early June and will be heading to India to change my life permanently.

I suppose people will think I am nuts for deciding to go to India even after everything that has been discovered by the online CLL community about particular doctors there, and I can't say I blame them. But I do think there is a good doctor to be found out there, maybe even a few. One of the reasons I decided to start writing this experience now rather than after I've already done the surgery is that I plan to consult with many doctors and post summaries of my consultations in detail within this thread. I think it will be good information for those who still see India as an option for their particular needs.

These are the doctors that I will be consulting with:

New DelhiMumbai

I won't be consulting with Dr Sringari or Dr Sarin, as I really see no point in doing so. However, rest assured that I will post my thoughts on each doctor I consult with. My goal is to make this patient experience as neutral as possible, as my goal is to give realistic expectations to any prospective patient for India, not try to sell anyone here on going.

Why Do I Want Limb Lengthening?
To be taller, duh.  ::)

Okay that's not the whole story, haha. Yes I want to be taller, but it's not so much a want as a need in my opinion. We've all seen the studies correlating height with potential success in multiple areas of life. Even more so, many of us have been personally affected by heightist bigotry from the tall guys who just don't get what short men have to go through, and even outright distaste from those who think we deserve to be treated differently because of our stature. There are specific instances I can recall where my height has been a barrier - I was fired from a sales position after there was a change in upper management and the new boss thought I couldn't represent the quality of their product with my stature, was left without a prom date my senior year of high school because the girl I asked canceled last minute and said she didn't want to wear a dress where she couldn't wear heels, have a mom who cried in front of other parents at the endocrinologist's office when they said I wasn't going to grow anymore at age 15, had been excluded from group activities, etc. The biggest blow was that I realized I couldn't be a really successful professional wrestler among the greats like Hulk Hogan because of my stature, and a pro wrestler was something I had wanted to become since I was a kid.

Hitting the gym and dressing nice didn't really change these things for me or the way I feel about my height all that much. Now I'm not saying that if you're short, you've got no hope. I've known quite a lot of short men who seem to be unaffected by their height or at least are very good at showing they're not bothered by it. I've even known some who are quite popular and have no apparent problems with the ladies. If you ask me, I'd tell you that unless you're absolutely miserable over your height, know all the risks with CLL, and cannot attribute your unhappiness to other factors that are not height-related, then CLL is not for you. With me, CLL is something that's been on my mind for 8 years and it's not going to go away until I do it. Unfortunately I do not think I can move on until this leg lengthening is dealt with. 

My next post will detail all the necessities I'm packing and the medications I've been prescribed by my doctor for stay in India. I hope this patient experience ends up helping many.


Special Thanks (in no particular order):
Dameon - for creating this forum and giving us a place where nobody is afraid to speak out on issues pertaining to limb lengthening.
All those who have done or are currently going through CLL and have chosen to share their experience with others.
All members of LL Forum who continue to make this a community I'm happy to be part of.

Edit: Realized my title was too similar to someone else's so I decided to change it. Curse this OCD of mine.
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 2:02 am
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Woooo grats Kilo!  ;D

I know you'll make the right decision on your doctor, and you'll even pave the way for others to do LL in India with some peace of mind.
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 2:03 am
#3
Thanks for this post! The sense of anticipation, excitement, and suspense I feel regarding your imminent journey is forcing me to go grab some popcorn (I can't help myself, lol)  : ;D But, on a more serious note, I want to sincerely say thanks so much for offering to share your thoughts and recollections of all of these interviews with us. It means a ton that, on your personal journey, you are doing so much to help others in the same boat, when you have no obligation to. Congratulations on making it to this point, the point so many people on this forum only currently dream of. You're truly an inspiration. I wish you all the luck in the world and hope that LL will be as meaningful and rewarding as possible for you.
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 2:49 am
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Best of luck for you Kilokahn!!
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 3:16 am
#5
It's good to see you're going to give the other Indian doctors a chance in hopes that you'll find a good one (or more than one).  It could bring hope to a lot of the short guys who can't afford the more expensive clinics.  You're going to have a lot of people hanging on your every word in here from now on.  Best of luck to you.  I already can tell this will be one of the best or the best LL diary ever.
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 3:25 am
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Quote from: BilateralDamage on May 10, 2014, 02:02:31 AM
Woooo grats Kilo!  ;D

I know you'll make the right decision on your doctor, and you'll even pave the way for others to do LL in India with some peace of mind.
Thanks. Choosing a doc is going to be tough I think, at least among three of them.

Quote from: Tall on May 10, 2014, 02:03:27 AM
Thanks for this post! The sense of anticipation, excitement, and suspense I feel regarding your imminent journey is forcing me to go grab some popcorn (I can't help myself, lol)  : ;D But, on a more serious note, I want to sincerely say thanks so much for offering to share your thoughts and recollections of all of these interviews with us. It means a ton that, on your personal journey, you are doing so much to help others in the same boat, when you have no obligation to. Congratulations on making it to this point, the point so many people on this forum only currently dream of. You're truly an inspiration. I wish you all the luck in the world and hope that LL will be as meaningful and rewarding as possible for you.

Thanks, Tall. Hopefully I can help people with this. I think the biggest worry of mine is catching something while abroad. Hopefully the meds work.


Quote from: Übermensch on May 10, 2014, 02:49:13 AM
Best of luck for you Kilokahn!!

Thanks Ubermensch :)

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on May 10, 2014, 03:16:37 AM
It's good to see you're going to give the other Indian doctors a chance in hopes that you'll find a good one (or more than one).  It could bring hope to a lot of the short guys who can't afford the more expensive clinics.  You're going to have a lot of people hanging on your every word in here from now on.  Best of luck to you.  I already can tell this will be one of the best or the best LL diary ever.

That's been on my mind for a while. I don't want to lead anyone with false expectations so I want to make this as unbiased as possible. Thanks for the encouragement.
Thanks for this post! The sense of anticipation, excitement, and suspense I feel regarding your imminent journey is forcing me to go grab some popcorn (I can't help myself, lol)  : ;D But, on a more serious note, I want to sincerely say thanks so much for offering to share your thoughts and recollections of all of these interviews with us. It means a ton that, on your personal journey, you are doing so much to help others in the same boat, when you have no obligation to. Congratulations on making it to this point, the point so many people on this forum only currently dream of. You're truly an inspiration. I wish you all the luck in the world and hope that LL will be as meaningful and rewarding as possible for you.

Thanks, Tall. Hopefully I can help people with this. I think the biggest worry of mine is catching something while abroad. Hopefully the meds work.


Quote from: Übermensch on May 10, 2014, 02:49:13 AMBest of luck for you Kilokahn!!

Thanks Ubermensch :)

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on May 10, 2014, 03:16:37 AMIt's good to see you're going to give the other Indian doctors a chance in hopes that you'll find a good one (or more than one).  It could bring hope to a lot of the short guys who can't afford the more expensive clinics.  You're going to have a lot of people hanging on your every word in here from now on.  Best of luck to you.  I already can tell this will be one of the best or the best LL diary ever.

That's been on my mind for a while. I don't want to lead anyone with false expectations so I want to make this as unbiased as possible. Thanks for the encouragement.
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 11:13 am
#7
Really good post hope you find the fiest Dr     :D    how about mesuration ?
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 1:12 pm
#8
whats ur height and goal
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 1:47 pm
#9
Kilokahn the boss!

Good luck bro.
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 1:59 pm
#10
You and I seem to have almost identical past history (except for the part about the endocrinologist office) and the same motivations for taking the leap of faith in doing LL.

Good luck with your journey..
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 2:30 pm
#11
Good luck Kilo  8), nice list of docs
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 3:23 pm
#12
Bro, take me with you we do the surgery together,
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 3:37 pm
#13
Quote from: Slim_tim on May 10, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
Bro, take me with you we do the surgery together,

Thats some nice Bromance, "fly away with meee... (whispering at the end of the song: "Take me")"  8)
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 4:40 pm
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Quote from: Slim_tim on May 10, 2014, 03:23:28 PM
Bro, take me with you we do the surgery together,


 I think that’s how it should be.. Doing LL in group of 3-4.. ( if you agreed to do with same dr)
It’s not that you only can save some cash from that, but also it would be much easier to see someone going through the same thing  ..  when it comes to how we as human being could feel sad if we see someone is suffering to the end of this crap.. but when it comes to LL you’d feel better to see that you’re not the only one who is suffering.. of course you still have to say I’m so sad for your pain bla bla but deep inside you’re really happy.. you may get what I mean when you do LL.. so yeah better to do it with group

Good luck kilo, but who is mal khan tent???
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 4:42 pm
#15
Good luck Kilo! I'm excited for you :), keep us posted on how your trip to India (and happiness) goes!
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 9:13 pm
#16
Thanks for the well wishes guys. I'll update more as I get things ready. I'm just going to relax today though :D

Quote from: PrettyTall on May 10, 2014, 11:13:36 AM
Really good post hope you find the fiest Dr     :D    how about mesuration ?

My Measurements
Total Height: 165 cm
Sitting height: 89 cm
Wingspan: 170 cm

Quote from: kusop on May 10, 2014, 01:12:58 PM
whats ur height and goal

I'm shooting for 5.5 cm on tibias. That'll get me just over 170 cm.

Quote from: Disobedient on May 10, 2014, 04:40:54 PM
Good luck kilo, but who is mal khan tent???

It's a manipulation of the word malcontent.
 1. mal·con·tent noun \ˌmal-kən-ˈtent\
- a person who is always or often unhappy or angry about something
- one who bears a grudge from a sense of grievance or thwarted ambition

The definition fits my thoughts about me thinking that my height has always prevented me from doing things, both by my own psychological barrier that I put on myself and from others who thought my height made it so I wasn't 'allowed' to do things the taller guys could, so to speak.

I just replaced 'con' with 'Kahn' from my username to make the title more personal.
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Posted on May 10, 2014, 9:18 pm
#17
Wow, you have a really tall sitting height relative to your overall height. Good for you!
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Posted on May 11, 2014, 3:20 am
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Quote from: Kilokahn on May 10, 2014, 09:13:11 PM
I'm shooting for 5.5 cm on tibias. That'll get me just over 170 cm.

No offense but I think it's a really bad choice to only do 5.5 cm for lengthening when spending so much money. You should go for 8 cm and be 173 for one surgery. Also do Russia instead of India. Everyone there gets f***ed up.
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Posted on May 11, 2014, 7:08 am
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Quote from: Gichelu on May 11, 2014, 03:20:29 AM
No offense but I think it's a really bad choice to only do 5.5 cm for lengthening when spending so much money. You should go for 8 cm and be 173 for one surgery. Also do Russia instead of India. Everyone there gets f***ed up.

None taken. I just think getting from 5'5 to 5'7 with one surgery is good enough and that my recovery will go a lot smoother at that amount as opposed to three inches on tibs, and if I decide to lengthen femurs in the future I'll be better off. If I do two surgeries I don't want to go beyond 11.5 cm, and I believe 5.5 cm on tibs followed by 5.5 or 6 cm on femurs would be better from a biomechanical standpoint than 8 cm on tibias followed by 3.5 cm on femurs. It would also mean that I'm paying a lot more per cm for the second surgery if I lengthen a lot on tibs and decide to go for a second surgery for the added 3 to 4 cm. Besides, lengthening both segments closer to the same amount would probably look a lot better aesthetically.
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Posted on May 11, 2014, 3:19 pm
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Quote from: Gichelu on May 11, 2014, 03:20:29 AM
No offense but I think it's a really bad choice to only do 5.5 cm for lengthening when spending so much money. You should go for 8 cm and be 173 for one surgery. Also do Russia instead of India. Everyone there gets f***ed up.

I am about the same height as Kilokahn and I had a goal of about 8cm on tibs for the same reason as Gichelu.  More bang for the buck.  But now my goal is 5.5 on tibs to ensure I get at least 5cms.  I take the train to work everyday and I compare knee height to everyone I sit by.  The guys who have 8cm longer tibs are usually around 190cm.  I think 5cms is very good gain and will put me close enough to average and will heal much quicker than 8cms.
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