5.5 Cm Femurs with Dr. Giotikas and G-Nail.

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When done properly, clicks are not painful. The problem is that, now that we are walking more and more, our legs get stiff and sore, so we can't properly relax the knee when clicking. Because of that, the last two days I had a lot of pain clicking. I found out that hot water before clicking helps the leg to relax, but it still hurts. I need to find a way to properly relax my muscles, because last week I was having 0 pain clicking.

Today I'm 2 weeks post op and was able to work for a few hours, so it's definitely possible. Giotikas also sent today stationary bikes to use at home. He says that biking before clicking will warm up the leg and help a lot, so I will try this too.

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Quote from: V21 on September 08, 2021, 10:18:07 AMWhen done properly, clicks are not painful. The problem is that, now that we are walking more and more, our legs get stiff and sore, so we can't properly relax the knee when clicking. Because of that, the last two days I had a lot of pain clicking. I found out that hot water before clicking helps the leg to relax, but it still hurts. I need to find a way to properly relax my muscles, because last week I was having 0 pain clicking.

Today I'm 2 weeks post op and was able to work for a few hours, so it's definitely possible. Giotikas also sent today stationary bikes to use at home. He says that biking before clicking will warm up the leg and help a lot, so I will try this too.

I usually stretch for 45 minutes before the clicking

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Quote from: DonBones on September 08, 2021, 01:59:35 PMI usually stretch for 45 minutes before the clicking
Wow, that helps? Last week I was stretching like 5 mins before clicking and 0 pain. This week is being really bad, so I will try now. I will strecth a lot and also use hot water again, let's see how it goes. Thanks for the tip.

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What's the main difference between gnail and betz nail?

Which one has better weight bearing and better clicking mechanism?

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What are the most common places / situations people hurt their legs when living at home w/ an internal weight bearing nail like gnail?

Ex: what physical setups/situations seem safe but you are actually at risk of hurting your legs or accident?

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Quote from: SpeedDialer on September 12, 2021, 12:38:07 AMWhat are the most common places / situations people hurt their legs when living at home w/ an internal weight bearing nail like gnail?

Ex: what physical setups/situations seem safe but you are actually at risk of hurting your legs or accident?
Getting up from toilet

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@SpeedDialer
Everyone can fly home, though I'd stay for at least a week, to make sure you're healthy and learn the physio routine.

@Antonio111111
They're nearly identical, but I'd go with Gnail since both Guichet and Giotikas do ITB releases, which makes recovery much easier when you go 5cm+

@V21
Stretching and clicking in hot bathtub are ways I used to reduce clicking pain. Also, don't slow down clicking below 0.78mm/15clicks or resistance will grow.

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Hey guys, I have some bad news. Let's see if someone can helo.
This week was going really well: my gait was very good for 2 weeks post op, my flexibility is still as good (or better) than pre-surgery...

However, on Wednesday, clicks started to be harder and harder. In the beginning, I thought it was cause I was recovering my muscles and they were resisting or something, so I just kept pushing and taking the pain. However, the clicks have become harder and harder every day. I was not able to click the right leg on Friday, so the nurse came to help. We did massage, bike, hot water... nothing worked. Just by pure will (and maybe desperation) I kept pushing the leg and finally clicked. I have a video of this: you can see me screaming and crying, but pushing trought until it cicked. The thing is that the twist is not normal: when Giotikas showed me how to do it in hospital, the twist was maybe 25-30 degrees. Now I need to twist 90 degrees or more to get the click. I think you can imagine the crazy pain it causes. It's important to say that this is also happening to the other G Nail patient.

For now I consider the following reasons:

The bone is growing too fast. That would explain why each day the click requires more and more twist. However, it seems very unlikely at 2-3 weeks post op.

Each click cause tightness in knee and it's being acumulated. I don't think this issue is being adressed in PT: my flexibility in quads, harmstrings etc is great, but the knee is getting tighter with each click.

I just have too much muscle. Just because of walking a lot, my quad muscles are almost as big as they were pre surgery.

In any case, tomorrow I have X rays and meeting with Dr. Giotikas. I'm not a weak person, and I'm fighting with all I have, but this is just torture. I scream with every click, and sometimes I feel I will pass out. I don't know how much longer I can keep like this. Also regarding time: last week I did my clicks in 40 minutes. Now they take 4 hours. Dr. Giotikas agrees that this is not normal, and tomorrow will do the clicks with me to check what's happening. I just hope he finds a solution, cause I'm really discouraged. The other patients is also in a similar situation. The funny thing is that the rest is going well: dont have much pain during the day, I walk and bike a lot, I sleep decently... it's just the clicks.

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Quote from: V21 on September 12, 2021, 12:05:33 PMHey guys, I have some bad news. Let's see if someone can helo.
This week was going really well: my gait was very good for 2 weeks post op, my flexibility is still as good (or better) than pre-surgery...

However, on Wednesday, clicks started to be harder and harder. In the beginning, I thought it was cause I was recovering my muscles and they were resisting or something, so I just kept pushing and taking the pain. However, the clicks have become harder and harder every day. I was not able to click the right leg on Friday, so the nurse came to help. We did massage, bike, hot water... nothing worked. Just by pure will (and maybe desperation) I kept pushing the leg and finally clicked. I have a video of this: you can see me screaming and crying, but pushing trought until it cicked. The thing is that the twist is not normal: when Giotikas showed me how to do it in hospital, the twist was maybe 25-30 degrees. Now I need to twist 90 degrees or more to get the click. I think you can imagine the crazy pain it causes. It's important to say that this is also happening to the other G Nail patient.

For now I consider the following reasons:

The bone is growing too fast. That would explain why each day the click requires more and more twist. However, it seems very unlikely at 2-3 weeks post op.

Each click cause tightness in knee and it's being acumulated. I don't think this issue is being adressed in PT: my flexibility in quads, harmstrings etc is great, but the knee is getting tighter with each click.

I just have too much muscle. Just because of walking a lot, my quad muscles are almost as big as they were pre surgery.

In any case, tomorrow I have X rays and meeting with Dr. Giotikas. I'm not a weak person, and I'm fighting with all I have, but this is just torture. I scream with every click, and sometimes I feel I will pass out. I don't know how much longer I can keep like this. Also regarding time: last week I did my clicks in 40 minutes. Now they take 4 hours. Dr. Giotikas agrees that this is not normal, and tomorrow will do the clicks with me to check what's happening. I just hope he finds a solution, cause I'm really discouraged. The other patients is also in a similar situation. The funny thing is that the rest is going well: dont have much pain during the day, I walk and bike a lot, I sleep decently... it's just the clicks.

hey man, Sorry to hear! Sounds like you are going through a rough patch. Given that your surgery was only a couple of weeks ago, plus you had a 1cm initial distraction, it's unlikely to be premature consolidation. After your x-rays tmrw, you'll know for sure. Knee pain is normal as your quad/hamstrings tendons are pulling eveywhere whenever you lengthen - they will eventually settle down and give in.

As what I hear, many ppl go through pain issues around 2cm and 5cm mark - no idea why. You might have to just push through it. Hang in there!

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I think @sirstretchalot also mentioned he had pain before he started feeling better.. Hang in there bro!!!