please that Giotikas doesnt increase more his prices in the following years
+6 cm tibia LATN with dr. Dimitrios Giotikas
Quote from: Submarine on August 30, 2021, 11:09:15 AMIf I may,what painkillers are you using?
they give you fentanyl (2x day) and liquid paracetamol few times through out the day or whenever you start screaming out of pain..
Quote from: MorningStar on August 30, 2021, 10:47:58 AMHello guys,
Sorry, I won't do very detailed diary, I'll make updates from time to time and answer to the questions.
Original height: 170-171 cm
Goal: +6 cm
Technique: tibia LATN with dr. Dimitrios Giotikas (original plan was Stryde but for obvious reasons I had to change my plans). Initial answer: why not G-nail? Because I've done my choice before dr. Giotikas introduced G-nail.
-1 day: legs are shaved but surgery is postponed till the next day because V21 ( http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=67810.0 ) surgery took to long. I am a bit too tired to move back to the center so I took the hotel room not so far from the hospital for one night.
0 day: feeling nervous and dizzy before the surgery but dr. Giotikas with another his team member (really awesome guy, also surgeon) came and calmed me. They said to concentrate not on the surgery but on the results. Happily after the surgery I was moved in the same ward with V21, really nice guy.
1 day: tried to do several steps with a walker but felt very dizzy and almost vomitted. Several LL veterans came to our ward to welcome us.
2 day: finally I was able to walk with a walker a bit more and several not very successful steps with a crutches. Maximum pain about 6/10, but normally around 2-3/10 (they constantly give us painkillers). Sleeping is also pretty good but a bit uncomfortable to be all the time on the back. Also they moved us to the new ward in the 4th floor where we can see a sea from the window!
3 day: getting better each day. Pain is really managable. Successfully walked with a crutches through the corridor.
4 day: feeling very good today, even I was working. I was walking a bit more than yesterday. After several hours I'll be discharged to home.
Tomorrow I'll start a PT.
In general I am completely happy about the hospital. Very clean and modern (wi-fi, TV, direct microphone with a nurses room, air conditioning), very friendly nurses are all the time around you, food is very good personally for me. Ward reminds more hotel room than a hospital room. 10/10.
P. S. One advice: take REALLY huge (XXL or bigger if possible) shorts for the frames. Happily hospital gave me one-time usage maximum size shorts, otherwise I'll be nked.
Nothing from my clothes I've taken fits on these frames.
Congrats on the surgery! Lucky you, they moved you to the 4th floor with sea view - not many patients get that kind of special treatment! 
Did you get those big ass TSF cages around the legs ? In my experience, externals are not that painful, but just watch out for those pinsite infections - they are not harmful but annoying as hell.
Best of luck on your journey!
What's the benefits with LATN over LON?
Quote from: eric.cartman on August 30, 2021, 03:28:10 PMthey give you fentanyl (2x day) and liquid paracetamol few times through out the day or whenever you start screaming out of pain..
And some of them say "I'm coming" and they take like 45 minutes to be there

Guys, thanks for all good wishes!
@Thehighest sorry, man, but that isn't up to me. 
@eric.cartman yes, they gave me the big one. Actually, my tibias are pretty big.
@RichTheGreat sorry, I can't remember right now. But dr. Giotikas doesn't do LON anymore so the choice was easy - LATN only.
@V21 I told ya, dude, don't say to them: "don't hurry up" or "when you can" because they won't come at all.

Finally, I've returned to home with a help from a really awesome nurse. I was already feeling quite ok in the hospital today but at home I felt like a sh..t again. I was unable to climb several stairs on my own, also to make a shower on my own. Happily the nurse was here. Pain is around 3/10, but my left leg (the weak one) is hardly swollen.
Quote from: Want-3-inches on August 30, 2021, 02:59:56 PMLATN is just pure externals but with nailing after lengthening. So as far as the need of blood thinners go, it's the same. Maybe with LATN they prescribe them for a few weeks after the nailing surgery. But with pure externals it's just a few weeks after the first surgery.
If MorningStar wants, he can refuse the 2nd surgery and live with the frames until his bones heal.
You are right. I was talking generally but yes, before nailing it is like pure external.
Quote from: RichTheGreat on August 30, 2021, 05:07:45 PMBest of luck on your journey!
What's the benefits with LATN over LON?
An easier first surgery and a little less risk of thrombosis and infections.
The con is that it needs one surgery more.
How much did you pay?
Quote from: lucindaris on August 31, 2021, 02:00:03 AMHow much did you pay?
All prices are public: https://www.athensbjr.com/cost-pricing-of-cosmetic-limb-lengthening/
So for me - 37200 euros.
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