has anyone done 8cm on tibias and regained athletic ability. I'm reaching 6cm+ mark and feel like can go to 8 but I
m quite concern about post op recovery. Can someone confirm this, I know not many people go for 8 con tibias so the information is kinda limited
Quote from: Activatedxx on July 01, 2021, 06:27:13 PM5cm-6cm seems to be maximum that one can expect to regain 90%,
Definitely not at 8cm
regain 90% after how long post-op I wonder, I have seen some guys who did 7 and doing very well after 1-2 years. At 6cm+ I feel no pain at all compared to a few weeks ago when things were quite bad, weird af. Well, if what you said is true then I should call it in a few days but still might regret later
Quote from: SirStretchAlot on July 01, 2021, 07:09:46 PMThere aren't many cases because complications rise after 5cm. Did you reach 6cm with weight-bearing nails? Because feeling like you can go 6+ with external fixiators is very different than going 6+ with weight bearing. You won't be able to walk. My internal femur nails can go 11cm+, but I'll only go 8-9cm because my walking is getting worse.
I'm doing lon with full weight bearing nail, walking is no problem before 5. Now at 6, due to the bulkiness of the frame and poor right leg ankle dorsiflexion I stopped walking just standing and doing variations of stretches. Man, this is difficult, I either call it after 5 days or push it all the way to 8. idk, I haven't had anything too serious up to this point so it's so tempting to get to 8cm
my xray taken 2weeks ago
https://imgur.com/y4qCeYX
Quote from: LeoGb on July 02, 2021, 04:06:14 AMAccording to what I have read, the recommended is 5 cm in tibias, I personally would not go over 6, I think that with 6 and a good recovery you could recover your best shape, by the way... how was Vietnam for surgery? how much did everything cost you? I hope it goes well.
(sorry for my english)
googd to know. I had my latest consultation with my doc 2 weeks ago and he said that 8 is possible in my case. In Viet Nam, the majority of CLL will be done as LON or external frame on tibias and most ppl would go above 5+cm and beyond. We also have some doctor who would do precise but since the nail is not full weight bearing so it's not preferable due to slow recovery. Usually it cost 15-20k here including everything from rental, pain oral, hospital, a care taker,....Atmm I'm in very good condition at 6cm+ and ready to call it at any moment. I just wanna know if anyone in the old forum has done 8 and camback with over 90%. I'm expecting quite high post consolidation phase
Quote from: Fiveandsomething on July 02, 2021, 07:33:26 AMPrecise was 20kUSD??
no LON is 20k for everything
PRECISE is likely under 25k, everything is cheap here not as expensive like in other countries or otherwise I couldn't be able to afford this surgery
Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on July 03, 2021, 03:45:00 AMPRECISE nails are western tehcnology that can't be offered cheaply in any country.
if counting the 2 surgeries alone it cost 6-7k for LON with my doctor (attachment and removal of the frame), a few years ago he would charge 5k, this is a conventional method that has been done for years. Same goes with any other doctor in VN, lon femur or tibia are all around 4-7k
same thing for precise, the technology has been transferred in VN for a couple of years, I'm not sure how much it cost at the beginning so I would assume 25k, in reality it could be way cheaper but I don't favor this method so I don't look for it's information. BEtzbone is 6-8k also. Stryde is unavailable because of it's price.
Quote from: LeoGb on July 11, 2021, 06:59:41 AMHow are you doing Dexter? I really hope everything goes 10/10, do you think you will be walking well again soon after the extraction?, look, I intend to have LON surgery with Dr. Buldu at the end of next year, but because of the cost $$ I would like to see some options in Vietnam, could you give me details of the company or doctor you had surgery with and the price you paid for your package in USD?, I would like to be able to have a package with physiotherapy, caregiver and the hotel for the duration of the lengthening, something like you. I would really appreciate it if you could share the info!
thanks, I'm doing good at the end of the distraction, no painkiller needed and I can't wait to remove the frame to learn how to walk and get back to normal life again so I'm expecting absolute recovery post op.
my doctor is in HCM, he doesn't treat foreigners. He does CLL regularly but mostly dealing with discrepancy patients or any cases related to lower half
However, you can do it in Ha Noi. This is a biggest clinic with experienced dr there. I believe they do offer a total package for foreigners.
here is their link
https://www.facebook.com/keodaichandrdoan/
https://keodaichan.vn/ly-do-nen-chon/
I did NOT do it there simply because of the distance and I also believe it can be done with my doctor in HCM too, not a too risky surgery if everything gets done correctly and you your homework, you'll be fine. Notice, I do know A LOT of patients there through chatting app in VN so I know how they charge and shed some light for you
about the total package you should expect if you do it in Ha Noi, I can provide a closed up number
-flight ticket: idk you do the math
-2 surgery: attachment and removal of the frame: 8K. You will stay in the hospital for 10 days before discharge to your hotel
- Hotel: with water, electricity, wify....you should spend no more than 400$ per month for a NICE, CLEAN apartment 1-2 toilets, 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 kitchen, balcony, ...You should also find a cheaper one easily but you need local people to look for this
- supplement, drugs, bandages, tapper,...etc : no more than 1.5k
- food: let just say you eat 5 times per day with big ass meal, fruits, snacks,....etc all are ordered so this can cost 400$ per month. This can be cheaper if you hire a caretaker, she will cook for you so you will pay less for food
- wheelchair. crunches: 40$
- care taker: I hire a mine 250$ per month/everyday no day off, he cooks for me and shows up from 12am-7pm.
- pt: they do provide in house pt, this guy charges 15$/ hour
So these are some major stuff that I can think of. Let's say you stay for 6 months and can you do the math. Lemme know if this helps
Quote from: Body Builder on July 11, 2021, 09:27:24 PM
Precise nails alone may cost more than that.
I.don't believe it would cost less than 30k dollars anywhere even if doctor do it for free.
I know where you come from with that but this nail is overcharged and no wonder why they cost this much because people believe it should cost this much, 30k you can buy a car in my country. The only reason I would believe CLL would be worth to pay lots of money is when you go for a whole package with great great doctor like Paley, Donghoon,...They have a team and concrete structure from a-z
Quote from: LeoGb on July 12, 2021, 06:06:51 AMI don't know if the forum is glitching, because my answer was sent incomplete and with a repeated paragraph, lol, Dr Doan also told me that he recommended to go only for 6-7 cm in TIBIAS, to reduce complications, I think that speaks well of him, because many others sell us that going for 10 cm is not complicated and without risks....
-even with the basic package you already get ripped off but it's acceptable since their hospital is top notch. Imo, of course just go for the basic package and outsource everything else. Notice, other doctors do 5-8k. mine is 7k
-transportation: not an issue we have grab here, all you need is your phone
-accommodation: seek help from agency or you can find one yourself. I found bunch of cheap one on google, here is an example https://alphahousing.vn/long-bien/apartment/ or look through facebook there's a lot of foreigner communities groups there, you will easily find one
-a caretaker: a middle age woman who has taken care a lot of Dr Doan's patients, I''ll give you her phone. She helps to cook and cleans up your stuff. A caretaker is very important, they make your life easier so you can focus working on your legs
-a pt: you can take one from dr Doan clinic or outsource too. In my case I did stretching and do pt myself, you can do it too, it requires A LOT of work EVERYDAY, this is your job. Imo, CLL is 60% about exercising
- I agree, you should get here one week prior to the 1st operation and set things up, you will be fine. Lemme know if this helps
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