Quote from: The Kaiser on February 25, 2017, 09:39:24 AMTook you 5 years to fell 75%. How long it took you to walk normal and no one can notice that you had LL?
No, it took me about 2 years to be about 75% and then the progress was minimum or not at all.
And also, sometimes I am close to 80% while some other times (thanks god much less) I'm close to 70%. That's why because with loose tendons like mine when the tension with gastrocnemius is good (after a lot of workout etc) you feel much better while after some days of minimum walking the tension is much less which causes a worse gait and a push off power reduction.
So, my condition is not always the same due to the difference in tension I have many times, something I'm almost sure that tendon shortening will fix or at least improve a lot.
Finally, it took me about 1,5 years after frame removal to walk normal without a (at least visible) gait.
But if i haven't done atl I'm sure that I'd walk completely normal in about half a year after frame removal.
Quote from: Body Builder on February 26, 2017, 12:36:48 AMNo, it took me about 2 years to be about 75% and then the progress was minimum or not at all.
And also, sometimes I am close to 80% while some other times (thanks god much less) I'm close to 70%. That's why because with loose tendons like mine when the tension with gastrocnemius is good (after a lot of workout etc) you feel much better while after some days of minimum walking the tension is much less which causes a worse gait and a push off power reduction.
So, my condition is not always the same due to the difference in tension I have many times, something I'm almost sure that tendon shortening will fix or at least improve a lot.
Finally, it took me about 1,5 years after frame removal to walk normal without a (at least visible) gait.
But if i haven't done atl I'm sure that I'd walk completely normal in about half a year after frame removal.
1.5 years after removal to walk normal?!! so if you did internal femur i guess 1 year + 1 year after to remove the frame, that's mean 2 years to walk normal!! did you do internal femur?
Quote from: The Kaiser on February 26, 2017, 08:05:41 AM1.5 years after removal to walk normal?!! so if you did internal femur i guess 1 year + 1 year after to remove the frame, that's mean 2 years to walk normal!! did you do internal femur?
No, with internal you could start walking a little after you stop lengthening, so I think that after 3-4 months from when you stop lengthening you'll walk normal.
I did tibia with external monorails fixators that weren't weight bearable so that, plus atl, made my rehabilitation much longer.
When I do femur LL with internals I'm completely sure that my experience will be much much easier.
Hello BB, I was actually really considering opting for ATL to rid of the worries of ballerina but after what u are saying here. I'm shook.
Do you reckon one would be able to walk normally with lifts once fully consolidated assuming no complications? Appreciate the knowledge you've dropped.
Quote from: 0184946 on February 26, 2017, 10:23:07 PMHello BB, I was actually really considering opting for ATL to rid of the worries of ballerina but after what u are saying here. I'm shook.
Do you reckon one would be able to walk normally with lifts once fully consolidated assuming no complications? Appreciate the knowledge you've dropped.
You mean if someone can walk normally with lifts if he has ballerina foot after LL? Yes, with lifts you can walk almost normal even if you have equinus problem but with this behaviour your equinus will never get better.
To get rid of ballerina you need a lot of walking with flat shoes and much stretching.
In 80% of cases the problem will be resolved after some months.
For the other 20%, you can choose to do atl or live with very stiff tendons and never walk completely good without lifts.
If I could turn back time and tried a lot to get rid of ballerina and still couldn't fix it (because my moron doctor did atl to me in less that 10 days after I stop lengthening and I didn't have time to do pt and try to get rid of equinus with pt), do you know what I'd choose?
To have a small equinus than doing atl and have loose ankles, and much less tension is gastrocnemius muscle which make your walking feel weak and unstable, even people who see you can't understand anything most of the times.
It is much better to have a stiff feeling compared to this loose feeling I have right now.
So for another time, avoid atl AT ALL COST.
Hi Bodybuilder,
I too have ballerina in my right leg and I tried hard to fix it with stretching, standing etc., It's been 6 months since frame removal.
But, it is not going away at all. Now, I am considering to go for AT lengthening. I wanted to undergo this surgery with the best doctor so that it I don't end up in further complications like over lengthening.
Which doctor did you choose for Achilles Shortening surgery ?
And, I heard that per-cutaneous AT lengthening is better than Open AT lengthening as per-cutaneous TA lengthening does not over lengthen the tendon. What is your opinion on this ?
And, I wish you the best for your Achilles Shortening surgery.
Thank you
I can't tell my doctor because I decided not to mention when I did LL and atl.
But afterall I wouldn't suggest him to you because he did a bad job with atl in my occasion and my left tendon is clearly overlengthened.
I don't know if my right tendon was overlengthened too or some weakness I feel is just the normal feeling that people have after atl but even if both my feet were like my right one, which is somewhat normal, I still wouldn't suggest this surgery because even if everything goes perfect you still have weakness and the rehabilitation takes a lot of time.
Also I think that if your one foot is healthy and you do atl only in the other one, you'll feel the difference of push off power more and maybe this will even lead to a weird gait in walking. But I am not sure about that as i did atl in both feet
Finally, pecurtaneous small cuts are maybe better than opes z plasty surgery but it is less precise and if you have a big bf it won't solve your problem as it is only for minor equinus problems.
Do you have a lot of problem with your current condition? Can't you walk normally if you put 2-3cm lifts on your heels?
I think than some small equinus is better than walking with a feel of weakness and I would choose to work my dorsiflexion for at least a year before taking my final decision.
I would have gone for atl only if after this time I still have had a big bf (20 degrees and more) and I had terrible problem with walking.
I suggest you to keep doing pts and if nothing improves in 6-7 months, then we can have this talk again
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