They say that up to 5 cm per clavicle (so up to 10 cm total width gain) lengthening is possible in 50 days and during the lengthening and consolidation you can use your arms freely and live normally.
I already have very wide clavicles for my height but if I'd like to increase the wingspan and look more broad shouldered, does it worth to have this surgery?
I know arm length is more important but +10 cm reach from clavicles alone is not a joke and still adds to arm reach which can be practical too.
So, if one already has wide clavicles and shoulders naturally, is it wise to lengthen the clavicles and become even wide and broad shouldered?
At least this procedure appears to be much safer and comfortable than arm lengthening.
Do you know what are the risks of this procedure apart from infections?
Apparently this guy lengthened 6 cm in total width (3 cm per clavicle) in about 65 days. He did it in Russia.
https://ibb.co/g4GSKwq
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So, you have done 9.5 cm femurs only? What was your initial height?
I can't afford internal femurs but can do LON femur in Russia in about 2 years and gain 9 cm to become 5'9 and wear lifts to stand at 5'11 until I do tibia 5 cm.
Do you recommend that route though? I can do 2.5 inch tibia in about a year but wearing lifts will be out of question as it will look weird until I do femurs.
Do you think that waiting for 2 years and getting 9 cm femur worth it compared to doing external tibia in about a year and gain at most 6 cm and being in fixators for about a year? With LON femur I will remove fixators in about 100 days and be done until nail removal.
Well, I can compensate with my other assets at 5'7.5 + 2 inch lifts so I'll be in a much better position than now at 5'5, but in order to wear lifts after 2.5 inch tibia lengthening, I have to wear tucked in shirt and pants cut off at ankle level in order to appear proportionate with 2 inch elevators.
Basically, I'm at a very disadvantaged height right now but anything above 170 with longish legs will take me out of that shortish zone and I'll look average with 2 inch lifts.
Although, since every cm matters up until 5'10, Doing femur 9 cm first rather than tibia 6 cm is much greater achievement at my current height. That 3 cm is not a joke but I understand that it's better to settle at 5'7.5-5'8 overlengthening tibia for 7 cm rather than go all in with LON femurs. The only problem is that achieving 7 cm on tibia is very hard but if done, I have to wear external fixators for about 12-14 months.
Well, I can get external only tibia where I live for about $4 000 vs LON femur in Russia for about $10 000.
Right now I want 2.5-3.0 inches of height ASAP in order to escape the disadvantages my height brings to a man. I'm 29 BTW, so every year is important from now on.
The problem is my wingspan is 166 cm so any height gain through LL will lower my ape index cm-by-cm, but I don't think about it as being 178 is my ultimate goal with longish legs. What I have right now is wide shoulders and big torso so I won't look bad with longish legs although arms might appear shortish after 12-13 cm of lengthening which, again, doesn't matter as long as I stand 178 barefoot throughout the day. I can wear lifts and stand at 182 and never think about appearing short in public again.
I understand that doing fully external tibia right now is my best option and gonna stick with it. I can get it done cheaply and will push to 7-7.5 cm to gain almost 3 inches which is life saving from my current height.
After tibia I will most probably fly to the USA and work there in order to get the money for PRECICE MAX till I get 40 and reach 180-ish height which will be another life changing event after what tibia lengthening brings to my life.
I'm just conscious about ballerina feet after 5 cm on tibia. I know that it's almost inevitable to get ballerina at 7-7.5 cm tibia but I'll stretch my ankles like crazy in order to avoid ATL surgery. I'm going to wear 2 inch elevators anyway so mild ballerina won't be an issue.
The more accurate way IMO is measuring demispan with a tailor's tape and then multiply the value by 2. My demispan is 83 cm so my armspan is roughly 166-167 cm which is low. I have broad clavicles and shoulders naturally so my arms and hands are not that long it seems. They are like Henry Cavill's, but proportionate to my body at this height. Cavill has very short forearms and childish hands but his broad upper body and overall stature compensates those flaws of course. That's why I'm going to buff moderately after my first LL and when femurs' turn comes, retain those muscles by working out during the lengthening and consolidation periods.
You are right in that the lack of height is the ultimate failo a man can have and it's much better being kinda disproportionate and have long legs like Henry Cavill rather than being short and have short legs.
In the past I always thought about having this surgery but forgot about it for quite some years till now. The reason I'm thinking about it again is that as man enters his 30s, being visually mature is very important for him and without a certain level of physical height things start to become even harder beginning in 30s. If only I needed just 5-7 cm like SWEDEN or some other famous users to get away with one surgery but I understand that I will most likely need to get the femurs done till 40 years of age in order to get the decent height and equalize proportions between upper and lower limbs.
Even though I'm too skeptical of Turkish doctors, when I watch LiveLiveTaller's videos where men at around my height get 2 segments done in total for 12-15 cm and how much different they look afterwards I imagine how I too will look like a completely different man after those surgeries and it never goes away from my mind.
Another thing is height gain is addictive up until 6 feet so after I do tibia to gain 3 inches and recover, my height dysphoria will intensify even more. Although I'll feel much better at my new height after tibia, I'll become even more determined to lengthen femurs ASAP in order to completely change myself into a version I envision now. That's why I think that Body Builder is still here after all this time because that 7.5 cm of tibia was not enough for him as his starting height was 0.5 cm more than mine, i.e. short.
I remember SWEDEN was contemplating for a long time after he done his tibia that he needed 5 cm femur but he left the forum in the end which means he accepted his 178 height which is decent height after all. But, if he was 5'8 after his surgery, I'm 100% sure that he would most probably still be there like Body Builder until he finally did his femurs too.
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