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CLL should be for short men becoming average, not average men becoming tall

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AllinStryde
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Posted on Dec 27, 2023, 9:56 pm
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It seems as though this procedure started as a way to help shorter guys at least have a shot at becoming average.  Now it appears that there's a bunch of average and tall men getting this done.  There's more and more men here who claim to be 5'9" to 5'11" getting this done, or at least expressing an interest in it.  Guys who are average height should be grateful for their height, and men who are already tall need to chill out and enjoy the life on easy-mode that they've been gifted.  The tall dudes just need to save their money and enjoy life.  I did  CLL because I was short, and having already done it, I'm actually still below average.  I can't even come close to imagining being 5'10" and going through what I did just to get "muh 6 feet" that everyone thinks they need.  There was a time when Paley refused to do this procedure on people who were already over the average height.  Maybe he should go back to that.  It is getting out of hand at this point.  That being all said, being a tall person and doing this...you're out of your mind.
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finertoga
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Posted on Dec 27, 2023, 10:45 pm
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You have to ask yourself the question, why do you even care? I say this as a short person (a weak 5’6”), if tall people want to spend money to get even taller, then why shouldn’t they be able to? It’s their lives, their legs, and they’re not hurting anyone by doing it. Now you definitely have the right to express your opinions to them and call them delusional if they’re like 6’0” in the US and want this done, but at the end of the day it’s their choice. Also consider that 5’10” is short in many Northern European countries, so you also can’t assume that they’re from the US or Asia.
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GrowGrow123
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 12:00 am
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No reason to gatekeep. If someone wants to spend their hard-earned cash and time on this as a cosmetic enhancement, who cares? Not to mention that even average height people can legitimately experience height dysphoria.
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1team
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 12:38 am
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LL got popular on social media and regular people found out about it. Even Paley used to have height limits but those are long gone unfortunately for really short guys it just puts them back at the bottom again as more average height guys get LL. Too much money in this for surgeons to turn down patients anymore.
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finertoga
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 12:42 am
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Quote from: GrowGrow123 on December 28, 2023, 12:00:00 AMNo reason to gatekeep. If someone wants to spend their hard-earned cash and time on this as a cosmetic enhancement, who cares? Not to mention that even average height people can legitimately experience height dysphoria.

The only argument, and it’s a weak one, is that average heighted people getting this done will negate the net benefits that shorter people get. The line of thinking is that, if average people get this done to be “tall”, then all that does is shift the average to a larger height since height and its perception is relative. This is of course a ridiculous argument, there are probably no more than ten thousand people (if that) worldwide that have gotten CLL. Just for the US average height alone, you would need millions, not thousands of average heighted people to get CLL to even measurably affect the statistical average of 5’9”.
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finertoga
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 12:46 am
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Quote from: 1team on December 28, 2023, 12:38:02 AMLL got popular on social media and regular people found out about it. Even Paley used to have height limits but those are long gone unfortunately for really short guys it just puts them back at the bottom again as more average height guys get LL. Too much money in this for surgeons to turn down patients anymore.

Just because regular people found out about it doesn’t mean that signficantly more people will go through with CLL. This is a grueling and intense procedure, and most people will be weeded out just by fear of that alone. In addition most people won’t even put in the effort to educate themselves on the process, so most likely will never end up doing it. Then you have the handful of people that actually make it through this initial “screening” that want to do it but because of funds or lack of planning never go through with it.
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Minkowski
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 11:07 am
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This shouldn't be the reason to gatekeep.
The same logic applies to it from plastic surgery. Do you need to be brutally ugly to be legitimated to do it? No. Everyone who wants to improve his or her look can do it.
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LONFemurs2021
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Posted on Dec 31, 2023, 4:44 am
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Quote from: AllinStryde on December 27, 2023, 09:56:54 PMIt seems as though this procedure started as a way to help shorter guys at least have a shot at becoming average.  Now it appears that there's a bunch of average and tall men getting this done.  There's more and more men here who claim to be 5'9" to 5'11" getting this done, or at least expressing an interest in it.  Guys who are average height should be grateful for their height, and men who are already tall need to chill out and enjoy the life on easy-mode that they've been gifted.  The tall dudes just need to save their money and enjoy life.  I did  CLL because I was short, and having already done it, I'm actually still below average.  I can't even come close to imagining being 5'10" and going through what I did just to get "muh 6 feet" that everyone thinks they need.  There was a time when Paley refused to do this procedure on people who were already over the average height.  Maybe he should go back to that.  It is getting out of hand at this point.  That being all said, being a tall person and doing this...you're out of your mind.

I'm sorry, but who the fk are you to decide who gets to do what with their own body?
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Beemer m sport
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Posted on Dec 31, 2023, 5:56 am
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theres never really a limit to height really. its become a statistic now. from 163 cm being 80% of LL and 177 cm being 20% LL
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