Quote from: Cyborg4LifeLIED on June 30, 2025, 01:24:18 AMMy “promotion” was me telling people not to go to that clinic because one user got given valgus (knock knees) from LL. This is a deformity that requires surgery to fix. Lengthening made it worse, he shouldn’t have been a candidate in the first place.
As quoted from the actual person's message on d1sc0rd that EVERYBODY can search up.
"im going to make a statement on this knock knee situation once and for all, I never came out publicly and accused anyone of giving me knock knees, thats just retarded first you speak to another doctor to adresss and diagnose the situation medically. Thats something I did. I spoke to the NHS and after inspecting my X-rays, I was slightly in valgus pre op, and even after lengthening my femurs are still within a natural degree of orientation, so no I do not have knock knees from Doctor Birkholtz infact I still would reccomend him as a surgeon to go to. This was just a concern I had during lengthening as I had a lot of muscle stiffness and tightness. I'm chilling 😹 . I even updated the situation with the person spreading this information regarding myself but however it seems due to ongoing beef with several people they have decided to continuously misrepresent the situation.
its honestly a shame i didnt get some bread 🤑 from some of you clowns for this info for sniffing up my business 😹"
I was not aware of the exitence of clientinpoursolutions*com 
Quote from: WannaBe190CM on June 30, 2025, 03:10:57 PM“shillings as this dude says is me telling people that Paley US, Paley EU, and Assayag have good results." You constantly shill for PaleyEU and this has been going on for months now. Do you really think we're idiots? Adding Paley US and Assayag into your shill list to hide the fact that you're obviously on some PaleyEU promotion BS.
"Banning people for criticising south africa", they have never banned anyone for criticising south Africa, please go take a look at the message history on dcord of those who got banned. >They get into beef with mods >they get banned
Again, cyborg runs a BUSINESS that puts a LOT of CLL doctors on his marketing page. Everybody around here already knew this.
As you've said, people aren't stupid. They have access to d and can see exactly the type of bias you have against South Africa for some odd reason. You have created a false narrative in your head maybe due to CLL psychosis.
ChrisOP has bad genetics. If you give 10 patients the same treatment, same surgery, same post op care, same food, same lodging yet they have differing outcomes of bone healing speeds or nerve pain, this is not the fault of the surgeon, this is just simply bad luck. Don't you have an academic background? I'm sure you are familiar with what happens when you keep the variables unchanged yet the results are differing. What do you mean by gait? Have you even seen the gait videos from other clinics? I do not see a difference in gait amongst Dr B and differing clinics.
Candidate screening is NOT done as how you assume it is done. Go ahead and ask your PaleyEU doctors how patient screening is done for CLL.
And as you've said, there IS a special place in hell for people like you. Spreading absolute bull about a surgeon for your own vendetta against the LL server. I do not care about whatever beef you have with the mod team.
Accuses me of shilling with 0 proof to discredit me, and in the same message says “ Again, cyborg runs a BUSINESS that puts a LOT of CLL doctors on his marketing page. Everybody around here already knew this.”
Person below you says they never heard of his company. You admins are embarrassing and are all being cooked on Reddit. The damage control is pathetic.
Also, provide proof of your false claim. I provided proof that you, other staff, and Victor have been shilling. That’s why ChrisOP deleted 32,000 messages on Victor’s server too.
I know that deep down you’re all immoral schizos that’s why you’re projecting. People aren’t stupid, if you knew I was wrong you wouldn’t be raging in the forum trying to save face. People on Reddit have been cooking you all anyway.
Yes I have seen videos and I can see how everyone is walking. Extremely mediocre at best.
ChrisOP’s results weren’t genetics only. Your own clinic was giving tea and coffee to patients. Both have caffeine which interfere with bone growth. So I’d go as far as saying the whole thing is negligent. It should be named and named. Just because people think you should be in jail for shilling dangerous places doesn’t mean they’re “promoting Paley”. It’s nonsense and you are yet to proibido evidence.
How is patient screening done then Mr expert? Enlighten us as you seem to know a lot of nonsense.
You don’t care about me calling people out yet you’re raging on the forum spreading misinformation and endangering people. Definitely sounds like you don’t care…
Quote from: WannaBe190CM on June 30, 2025, 03:23:56 PMAs quoted from the actual person's message on d1sc0rd that EVERYBODY can search up.
"im going to make a statement on this knock knee situation once and for all, I never came out publicly and accused anyone of giving me knock knees, thats just retarded first you speak to another doctor to adresss and diagnose the situation medically. Thats something I did. I spoke to the NHS and after inspecting my X-rays, I was slightly in valgus pre op, and even after lengthening my femurs are still within a natural degree of orientation, so no I do not have knock knees from Doctor Birkholtz infact I still would reccomend him as a surgeon to go to. This was just a concern I had during lengthening as I had a lot of muscle stiffness and tightness. I'm chilling 😹 . I even updated the situation with the person spreading this information regarding myself but however it seems due to ongoing beef with several people they have decided to continuously misrepresent the situation.
its honestly a shame i didnt get some bread 🤑 from some of you clowns for this info for sniffing up my business 😹"
And I had the same user requesting for people to not talk about his case because you all kept harassing and attempting to doxx him (like Victor threatened to do so, which can also be seen in the Limb Lengthening Community d1sc0rd). My point was that no one spoke up because they either got banned, harassed, doxxed, or all of the above. I have evidence of all points made, and unlike your server I don’t delete 32,000 messages (we took screenshots of both times btw) of over 30k messages being deleted. Panicking much?
Quote from: Mordans on June 30, 2025, 09:48:58 PMI was not aware of the exitence of clientinpoursolutions*com
Most people weren’t. This is particularly evident even on Reddit in the limb lengthening subreddit.
Meanwhile we got their mods, staff, and possibly even Victor trying to do damage control here by saying “everyone knew” and “it’s a business”. Funnily enough his website has no such disclaimers (it’s all available on archive.org in case it’s added later).
This is a cringe ass rant that not a single soul give a s**t about, people make business SHOCKING isn't it?
You have problems with your head buddy.
You are inadequate haha.
I asked Victor few months ago and he told me exactly what it says on that website.
I'm not mod btw.
Victor doesn't even want to have sketchy doctors on his Youtube.
ChrisOP can talk for himself if he has complications.
Victor is responsible for Birkholtz or what?
I didn't see any suicide stuff on his d, no racism against Indians or Asians.
I have been also banned there as I had argument with Nail Maxxing, so what? I just came back to that server creating new account and not blaming Victor for that as it doesn't make sence.
Your server sucks let's be honest, it's boring, I ve been there in the winter and remember when you were recommending Paley EU.
What I see is you are trying to jump in LL business, put dirt on Victor as your competator and run consultations offering everyone Paley EU, I remember how you were complaining that nurses grabbed your legs and you have been screaming from pain so may be Paley EU are not compenent too?
WTF all this is about I really don't understand LOL
BTW I'm with Gdalevitch in Montreal and decided to do it there also because of Victor and happy for now so should I say thank to Victor or what?
Quote from: Cyborg4LifeLIED on July 03, 2025, 08:03:55 PMAccuses me of shilling with 0 proof to discredit me, and in the same message says “ Again, cyborg runs a BUSINESS that puts a LOT of CLL doctors on his marketing page. Everybody around here already knew this.”
Person below you says they never heard of his company. You admins are embarrassing and are all being cooked on Reddit. The damage control is pathetic.
Also, provide proof of your false claim. I provided proof that you, other staff, and Victor have been shilling. That’s why ChrisOP deleted 32,000 messages on Victor’s server too.
I know that deep down you’re all immoral schizos that’s why you’re projecting. People aren’t stupid, if you knew I was wrong you wouldn’t be raging in the forum trying to save face. People on Reddit have been cooking you all anyway.
Yes I have seen videos and I can see how everyone is walking. Extremely mediocre at best.
ChrisOP’s results weren’t genetics only. Your own clinic was giving tea and coffee to patients. Both have caffeine which interfere with bone growth. So I’d go as far as saying the whole thing is negligent. It should be named and named. Just because people think you should be in jail for shilling dangerous places doesn’t mean they’re “promoting Paley”. It’s nonsense and you are yet to proibido evidence.
How is patient screening done then Mr expert? Enlighten us as you seem to know a lot of nonsense.
You don’t care about me calling people out yet you’re raging on the forum spreading misinformation and endangering people. Definitely sounds like you don’t care…
LMFAO your "proof" is so schizo and biased its ridiculous. Cooked on reddit? wow amazing. I care so much about the opinions of people who use reddit.
We all know exactly what you are trying to do and you aren't even hiding it atp. You say that we're immoral schizos yet you let your own personal vendetta of MULTIPLE years make up the most bull accusations towards Dr B's clinic. "Mediocre at best" XDDDD, I personally know 4 other patients IRL that have recovered their gait fully and I have seen exactly the type of process they go through. I have also seen the exact same gait transition cycle for other Drs INCLUDING Paleys. I still have no idea what you mean by "everyone's walking mediocre" when the gait has quite literally been recovered back to 100%.
"Your own clinic was giving tea and coffee to patients". Ahh yes, so let's put this in a thought experiment. If 10 patients each consumed caffeine, yet 9/10 of them had good bone growth but 1 doesn't. Is that a genetical variable of a caffeine variable? Secondly, tea and coffee are NOT being shoved down your throat, the Dr CLEARLY advised against it warning of a slight risk of slowing down your bone healing. And that is why most of us CHOSE not to drink it. A DOCTOR can only ADVISE a patient NOT control one.
Patient screening as a predictive method to reduce risk ONLY accounts for obvious tell signs including pre-existing health conditions, original TF ratio, canal diameter whether THEY CAN FIT any nails, NOT whether if its smaller than average. BMI, bloodwork, weight age etc is also checked. These are very standard across all clinics so I am extremely confused at your comments regarding why ChrisOP should have been rejected as a patient when even your own clinic would have accepted him.
LOL wait let me get this straight, so the patient literally says that you're a schizo and hates the fact that you keep mentioning him in your own personal beef with other people even to the point of distorting facts yet surely he's being "threatened?". Go take a look at his msg records, would a threatened person be ACTIVELY talking and interacting with the chat if he was threatened??? Actually let's get him on this forum thread Xd let's see what he has to say about this.
Again, I do NOT care about your vendetta against the mods/other server, you are the one spreading misinformation and have an extremely skewed perspective.
Quote from: Almost There on July 03, 2025, 10:16:36 PMYou have problems with your head buddy.
You are inadequate haha.
I asked Victor few months ago and he told me exactly what it says on that website.
I'm not mod btw.
Victor doesn't even want to have sketchy doctors on his Youtube.
ChrisOP can talk for himself if he has complications.
Victor is responsible for Birkholtz or what?
I didn't see any suicide stuff on his d, no racism against Indians or Asians.
I have been also banned there as I had argument with Nail Maxxing, so what? I just came back to that server creating new account and not blaming Victor for that as it doesn't make sence.
Your server sucks let's be honest, it's boring, I ve been there in the winter and remember when you were recommending Paley EU.
What I see is you are trying to jump in LL business, put dirt on Victor as your competator and run consultations offering everyone Paley EU, I remember how you were complaining that nurses grabbed your legs and you have been screaming from pain so may be Paley EU are not compenent too?
WTF all this is about I really don't understand LOL
BTW I'm with Gdalevitch in Montreal and decided to do it there also because of Victor and happy for now so should I say thank to Victor or what?
Just because he said so means that it's true, right?
Nearly 10 people who were in the recorded call heard him saying not to talk about complications due to legal implications.
He isn't responsible but as he promotes him, I would argue that he shares some of the burden. Not to mention that he's promoted heavily in his platform.
In terms of your doctor claim, let's not forget that he had a video with Giotikas up until the patient death. Video was deleted and no comment was made. Essentially pretended it didn't happen.
That's quite the slippery slope you've got there. I call out shilling and you accuse me of starting a competing LL business? This forum is so far gone 
When did I run a "consultation"? Please provide proof. Like the other guy you're talking nonsense. Just because someone helped you doesn't mean you owe any loyalty to them. Many patients feel the need to support their doctor and cyborg like a football team as they solved their height neurosis. Many people on this forum should be aware of this.
Quote from: WannaBe190CM on July 03, 2025, 10:48:47 PMLMFAO your "proof" is so schizo and biased its ridiculous. Cooked on reddit? wow amazing. I care so much about the opinions of people who use reddit.
We all know exactly what you are trying to do and you aren't even hiding it atp. You say that we're immoral schizos yet you let your own personal vendetta of MULTIPLE years make up the most bull accusations towards Dr B's clinic. "Mediocre at best" XDDDD, I personally know 4 other patients IRL that have recovered their gait fully and I have seen exactly the type of process they go through. I have also seen the exact same gait transition cycle for other Drs INCLUDING Paleys. I still have no idea what you mean by "everyone's walking mediocre" when the gait has quite literally been recovered back to 100%.
"Your own clinic was giving tea and coffee to patients". Ahh yes, so let's put this in a thought experiment. If 10 patients each consumed caffeine, yet 9/10 of them had good bone growth but 1 doesn't. Is that a genetical variable of a caffeine variable? Secondly, tea and coffee are NOT being shoved down your throat, the Dr CLEARLY advised against it warning of a slight risk of slowing down your bone healing. And that is why most of us CHOSE not to drink it. A DOCTOR can only ADVISE a patient NOT control one.
Patient screening as a predictive method to reduce risk ONLY accounts for obvious tell signs including pre-existing health conditions, original TF ratio, canal diameter whether THEY CAN FIT any nails, NOT whether if its smaller than average. BMI, bloodwork, weight age etc is also checked. These are very standard across all clinics so I am extremely confused at your comments regarding why ChrisOP should have been rejected as a patient when even your own clinic would have accepted him.
LOL wait let me get this straight, so the patient literally says that you're a schizo and hates the fact that you keep mentioning him in your own personal beef with other people even to the point of distorting facts yet surely he's being "threatened?". Go take a look at his msg records, would a threatened person be ACTIVELY talking and interacting with the chat if he was threatened??? Actually let's get him on this forum thread Xd let's see what he has to say about this.
Again, I do NOT care about your vendetta against the mods/other server, you are the one spreading misinformation and have an extremely skewed perspective.
I'm not going to address any of your points as what you're saying is "X person that I know in-person said it's true". We have already established that you are mentally ill and love making stuff up, then accuse the others of doing what you do, lol. Get help dude.
Yes, I have looked at the patient's messages as I have spoken to him in DMs and have screenshots of it. What he says in public is due to you schizos never leaving him alone. Get help dude. You don't care yet you keep talking nonsense. Kindly, get a job.
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