Diary: Femur LON - Dr Halil Buldu - May 2021

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Quote from: Activatedxx on June 23, 2021, 08:05:41 PMI appreciate it, i feel that I’m far better off where I am however

For sure,i was talking with a friend who did LL with Buldu a few months before you,he went through hell the first 3 weeks,and it kept going better after that,now he is recovering pretty well actually,walk 4km everyday,stretching and so on,with 6 months post op,it's quite good,i'm sure things are going to be better for you now,you've been through the worst imo,just keep in touch with the doc for a good follow up
Can i ask you guys how much is that package,i heard 20 or 22k,is it possible to get lower price if you get in touch with Buldu in person ?

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Quote from: Apollo676 on June 23, 2021, 08:06:59 PMYes,i agree,i'm really leaning more towards LON right now,i have   mobility,uncomfortability,but for only 3 months,and after that being able to weight bear and have significantly better recovery,and be able to have a normal life a year after op,but if i'm doing this i'm aiming for 6/7cm minimum for sure
How are you now ? It's been what,a month post op,how is pain,mobility ? Is it better overall as time pass ?

You can read the diary for the details. First three weeks are hell, but for the last week I have been 95% painfree. I’ve had pain spikes of about 1-3(rarely) that last 2 minutes, otherwise I’ve been very well this week.
I started stretching 1-2 hours a day and it has helped me recover a lot of mobility and flexibility. If you do not stretch like it is your job, you will always be in pain. You will also walk out of here unable to bend your knees and ankles. Again, if you do LON femurs, you need to stretch 1-3 hours a day minimum.
I’m taking my fixaters off in 8 or so days. I’m looking forward to returning to life with my two inches at 177ish.

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Congrats bro,177cm is a solid height imo,with good shoes you can claim 6ft quite easily
How was your flexibility before the surgery ? Did you train to prepare yourself ? Did you stretch during your first 3 weeks ? Do you have any advice on how to prepare before doing that surgery ?

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Congratulations!  I bet you feel amazing at your new height!

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Quote from: HobbitMan on June 23, 2021, 08:50:54 PMCongratulations!  I bet you feel amazing at your new height!
Quote from: Apollo676 on June 23, 2021, 08:19:38 PMCongrats bro,177cm is a solid height imo,with good shoes you can claim 6ft quite easily
How was your flexibility before the surgery ? Did you train to prepare yourself ? Did you stretch during your first 3 weeks ? Do you have any advice on how to prepare before doing that surgery ?

Thanks for the kind words both, but it's not over until the fixater is yanked out. This is not going to be a simple process- I heard it can be a 10/10 painful process.

Do non-strentgth yoga for a month or two before hand. Get used to stretching your back, hamstrings, quads, and calfs. I didn't stretch enough. Either way you'll be doing it here.

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Quote from: PerfectBody on June 24, 2021, 06:22:31 AMThanks for the kind words both, but it's not over until the fixater is yanked out. This is not going to be a simple process- I heard it can be a 10/10 painful process.

Do non-strentgth yoga for a month or two before hand. Get used to stretching your back, hamstrings, quads, and calfs. I didn't stretch enough. Either way you'll be doing it here.
Nothing will happen to muscle if you so stretching only before 1 or 2 month from surgery.
for flexibility at least 2 years stretching and for strength 6 month

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Quote from: Apollo676 on June 23, 2021, 07:23:50 AMThe only alternative i have is precise,which will keep me walking with a walker at best for almost a year,so the dilemna is quite big here,suffer with LON for 3 months and basically be with a stryde-like nail after that and be able to walk on my own 3-4 months after op,as stryde is not planning to come back anytime soon i'm gonna have to decide,but i can't afford be in bed for a full year basically
What do you mean about negotiate ? For the suffering,i'm pretty sure LON is quite a torture comparing to internals,but hey breaking your legs anyway will hurt as fk in the end.

What country are you coming from? If US. Get you some Bendadryl and zzquil before you come out here. Those will help you get at least 4hrs of sleep per night. If you can get your hands on some vicodine and or Tylenol 3 with codeine. I would advise that as well. The pain killers here are literally Tylenol strength.

That being said, if you are going to consider LON. It will be the hardest thing you have ever done. Hands down. You will cry on a few occasions during. The regret is gonna be every other day and the Pain will be the worst pain. LON WHILE it is affordable in my opinion is NOT conventional, bruh Lol the pain is NO JOKE...some days you’ll feel absolutely Nothing tbh just the inconvenient and then the next day you may be in excruciating pain.
I Do believe ANYONE CAN DO IT.
As painful as it is, it is quite TOLERABLE..but...the sh8t is is 100% No joke Y DF did I do this level pain every other days at least.

If you have family support. Negotiate the price/package, get the surgery wait here three weeks and Go back Home... Knowing what I Know now that is what I would have done.

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Quote from: Apollo676 on June 23, 2021, 07:16:22 PMI'm not saying it's easy man,i'm just considering all the options here,what would you trade ? LON as you are doing now,or precise for at least twice the duration and a lesser recovery ? Imagine not being able to walk with confidence for almost a year,with LON even though i really understand that pain and comfort are  ,you'll be able to walk and consolidate properly in less than 3 months,that's worth considering

I would have loved to have never known this type of pain, and I’ve broken my arms from a motorcycle accident. I would choose any other method 10/10 times before I would do LON AGAIN.

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What I understand, you chose LON with about 10 days of hotel and some physiotherapy sessions for 15k EUROS, that does not include the extraction of the fixatives, right? And that the package that includes the hotel, all the physiotherapy and all the care in general is at 20k euros, including removal of fixatives correct?If so, it would not seem like a bad idea to pay 5000 EUROS more, even knowing that you have to pay the 2500 $ for the extraction of the fixatives (which I doubt is included in the price of 15k) which in the end would rise to $ 17,500 in total.   But the prices really confuse me, is it really possible to negotiate this surgery? or to what extent? In another publication I saw that the LON package with only surgery was at 16k and the other package that includes hotel and all care was at 22k, in the end 2k or 3k make a lot of difference.  (sorry for my english)
and thanks for sharing such good information, good luck guys.

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Quote from: Fiveandsomething on June 25, 2021, 06:06:53 AMWhat country are you coming from? If US. Get you some Bendadryl and zzquil before you come out here. Those will help you get at least 4hrs of sleep per night. If you can get your hands on some vicodine and or Tylenol 3 with codeine. I would advise that as well. The pain killers here are literally Tylenol strength.

That being said, if you are going to consider LON. It will be the hardest thing you have ever done. Hands down. You will cry on a few occasions during. The regret is gonna be every other day and the Pain will be the worst pain. LON WHILE it is affordable in my opinion is NOT conventional, bruh Lol the pain is NO JOKE...some days you’ll feel absolutely Nothing tbh just the inconvenient and then the next day you may be in excruciating pain.
I Do believe ANYONE CAN DO IT.
As painful as it is, it is quite TOLERABLE..but...the sh8t is is 100% No joke Y DF did I do this level pain every other days at least.

If you have family support. Negotiate the price/package, get the surgery wait here three weeks and Go back Home... Knowing what I Know now that is what I would have done.

Do you really believe Precise would be way less painful than LON ? I mean for sure the fixators must be annoying asf,and cause additionnal pain for sure,but the advantage i see for going with LON is really the recovery part,which seems to be like stryde overall,being able to walk on your own a few weeks after the surgery,and walk properly after fixators removal is a huge advantage for the recovery process,a year after operation,with proper diet and training you can be quite confident to get back most of your pre op condition,walk,start to run again and so on,but with precise you'll probably using crutches even a year after,that's a huge commitment,and right now i would only trade LON for stryde,but it's apparently not coming back anytime soon,maybe 2 years from now,that's why i'm seriously considering LON,living hell for 3 months as bad as it sounds is better than precise for more than a year

Yea i'll probably take some painkillers from here ( Europe ),before going to Turkey and planning a proper diet and training,with supplements and stuff,that's why i'm trying to learn as much as i can from you guys,thanks for your diairies i learn a lot