Quote from: Growing on August 04, 2021, 11:25:53 AMThanks bro. I'm just glad you got to the other side of it ok. I'll try to lengthen as long as I can tolerate. That will suck for me if the internet is bad.. lol. I was in turkey last year and had no cell service so I depended heavily on wifi.
As far as food, do they have delivery services like uber eats? Its actually kind of a good thing for me if the food is bad. I could stand to lose a few pounds.
I'm stacking up on the zzzquill and Tylenol PM. I just hope customs don't give me a hard time about it when traveling.
How tall are you and what is your goal? Weird question but also what is your weight, and how muscular would you describe your legs from 1-10, where 10 is ultra-jacked body builder? Your muscularity will be the ultimate determining factor for your lengthening imo. Take it from me and 5footsomething, we're both pretty built and it was brutal for us - we had a lot more muscle and flesh to lengthen than the average skinny guy there.
Bring protein powder for muscle growth/health too - you'll be very tired all the time and whey will help your muscles maintain some energy/vitality. Put ALL of this (including sleeping+pain meds) on your check-in luggage.
In general don't rely on the LLT team helping you as much as you'd like - they're there to make sure you don't drop dead and provide some guidance, but in general this is 99% you supporting yourself. There's an app they use to get food and it's ok. Bring a laptop so you can automatically google translate everything.
One way or another, this experience will turn you into a man. Like I said, I do kind-of regret not pushing for an extra 1-2cm, but if I were doing it again I would still not push past 5cm. Please keep in mind - this sort of regret exists in all cosmetic surgery patients who recovery successfully because they will always wonder why they didn't push for more (thinner nose, bigger boobs, etc). Maybe Tibias later (LOL) but that's all my body would let me do for now. I wouldn't even call it regret, just curiosity. I don't regret having done this surgery and the amount I lengthened. Just a lingering desire, I guess.
The good news is that my recovery is perfectly fine - I can walk better 1 month after fixater removal than anybody who did 7-8cm 6 months after they removed it. In some ways it really feels like I cheated/got away very lucky from this.
This is not easy. Good luck ,have fun.
Diary: Femur LON - Dr Halil Buldu - May 2021
Quote from: PerfectBody on August 05, 2021, 02:21:05 PMHow tall are you and what is your goal? Weird question but also what is your weight, and how muscular would you describe your legs from 1-10, where 10 is ultra-jacked body builder? Your muscularity will be the ultimate determining factor for your lengthening imo. Take it from me and 5footsomething, we're both pretty built and it was brutal for us - we had a lot more muscle and flesh to lengthen than the average skinny guy there.
Bring protein powder for muscle growth/health too - you'll be very tired all the time and whey will help your muscles maintain some energy/vitality. Put ALL of this (including sleeping+pain meds) on your check-in luggage.
In general don't rely on the LLT team helping you as much as you'd like - they're there to make sure you don't drop dead and provide some guidance, but in general this is 99% you supporting yourself. There's an app they use to get food and it's ok. Bring a laptop so you can automatically google translate everything.
One way or another, this experience will turn you into a man. Like I said, I do kind-of regret not pushing for an extra 1-2cm, but if I were doing it again I would still not push past 5cm. Please keep in mind - this sort of regret exists in all cosmetic surgery patients who recovery successfully because they will always wonder why they didn't push for more (thinner nose, bigger boobs, etc). Maybe Tibias later (LOL) but that's all my body would let me do for now. I wouldn't even call it regret, just curiosity. I don't regret having done this surgery and the amount I lengthened. Just a lingering desire, I guess.
The good news is that my recovery is perfectly fine - I can walk better 1 month after fixater removal than anybody who did 7-8cm 6 months after they removed it. In some ways it really feels like I cheated/got away very lucky from this.
This is not easy. Good luck ,have fun.
Thanks for the info. Are you back home already? not sure if You mentioned it or not. And that's pretty awesome that you feel good. Whats important is that your health is in tact and you are taller than you were previous so I'd call the a success.
I am 5'8", and my goal is to be 5'11". I will also be getting me legs straightened. I am knock knee'd. I'm 185 lbs. My goal weight is 155-160. I'm hoping I could lose some weight during my stay in turkey. I won't be as tempted with not having the convenience of a corner store to by snacks etc. I'd say 5.5 as far as my legs go. they aren't super muscular but not scrawny either.
I already have 2 tubs of protein to bring with me. I also will be bringing supplements for micros and also supps to support collagen and bone growth. I planned to bring my laptop already. Was gonna bring my fire stick but not sure if the apps will work in a different country.
I also found a travel leg and foot massager that wraps around the foot up to the knees. I got this because I heard of people having shin and ankle pains and numbing during the lengthening process. Heat is good for blood circulation to promote healing and the massage function is just the cherry on top.
I'm preparing for the pain. I was searching to score some "good pills" before the trip but its very hard and super expensive without prescription. Hopefully I can walk away from this with no regrets as well. I will aim for 8cm, but if it becomes too much I will stop.
Quote from: Growing on August 05, 2021, 04:36:49 PMThanks for the info. Are you back home already? not sure if You mentioned it or not. And that's pretty awesome that you feel good. Whats important is that your health is in tact and you are taller than you were previous so I'd call the a success.
Thanks. Yes I am home and well. I scale (with support) 4 flights of stairs 2-3x daily to get in/out of my apartment. Things are looking good.
Quote from: Growing on August 05, 2021, 04:36:49 PMI am 5'8", and my goal is to be 5'11". I will also be getting me legs straightened. I am knock knee'd. I'm 185 lbs. My goal weight is 155-160. I'm hoping I could lose some weight during my stay in turkey. I won't be as tempted with not having the convenience of a corner store to by snacks etc. I'd say 5.5 as far as my legs go. they aren't super muscular but not scrawny either.
Aim for 7cm, it sounds like you will struggle past 5cm. Remember, every cm past 4-5 becomes harder exponentially. And only tiny dudes with no body-muscle really make it to 8cm. The average dropout is 7-7.5cm.
Quote from: Growing on August 05, 2021, 04:36:49 PMI already have 2 tubs of protein to bring with me. I also will be bringing supplements for micros and also supps to support collagen and bone growth. I planned to bring my laptop already. Was gonna bring my fire stick but not sure if the apps will work in a different country.
I also found a travel leg and foot massager that wraps around the foot up to the knees. I got this because I heard of people having shin and ankle pains and numbing during the lengthening process. Heat is good for blood circulation to promote healing and the massage function is just the cherry on top.
The reason people's ankle/shins hurt is because they're lying in bed with 10lb weights surgically stuck to their legs with broken bones. Your heels will drag across the fabric and after several hours will blister. Just ask for ice packs and put them under your heels. Or on your shins sometimes to deal with nerve/muscle pain.
Also for the love of f*cking god, you're doing this to get taller not skinnier. Hard stop, that's all you are doing. If you want to stop eating, enjoy 0 bone formation. You need 1k calorie surplus for each broken bone in your body if you want to heal. Do not bring up your f*ck-witted diet aspirations, you're in an extreme medical procedure. Jfc. Please take this deadly serious, your legs depend on it. Good luck man, dont skimp on food. You'll be fine.
Quote from: PerfectBody on August 05, 2021, 06:50:11 PMAlso for the love of f*cking god, you're doing this to get taller not skinnier. Hard stop, that's all you are doing. If you want to stop eating, enjoy 0 bone formation. You need 1k calorie surplus for each broken bone in your body if you want to heal. Do not bring up your f*ck-witted diet aspirations, you're in an extreme medical procedure. Jfc. Please take this deadly serious, your legs depend on it. Good luck man, dont skimp on food. You'll be fine.
Woah.. you need to calm down there buddy.. you gotta learn to use your words bruh.. fk witted? Don't bring it up to who, you? Sure I won't bring it up to YOU..anyway.. I've already been dropping weight already. I eat far more than I should now. I'll do research on the info you gave me though about eating 1k calorie surplus to heal. I'll also ask Dr. Baldu about that. Thanks for the tip about the heels. I would have never thought of that. this gonna be and uncomfortable time for sure.
Don't tell anybody to calm down, pipsqueak.
If you can't handle somebody calling your plans to "lose weight" while healing a double osteotomy stupid, which it is, then I recommend you toughen the f*ck up. Look up the Vietnamese guy who can't lengthen after 4.5cm. He's on this forum, check his diet and bone formation xrays. This is not meant to insult your character - this is genuinely a very bad idea.
You're about to go to a foreign country to get your legs broken, and you will be beyond handicapped for 2+ months. All of this alone. If you're getting offended on a forum, you don't stand a chance. This is coming from a place of brotherly kindness and love: my ultimate recommendation for you is to grow a pair of balls before you do this. I cannot stress how mentally and physically tough this is.
Looking forward to reading about your experience while you're in the hospital after surgery. Good luck man.
Quote from: PerfectBody on August 06, 2021, 01:10:33 PMDon't tell anybody to calm down, pipsqueak.
If you can't handle somebody calling your plans to "lose weight" while healing a double osteotomy stupid, which it is, then I recommend you toughen the f*ck up. Look up the Vietnamese guy who can't lengthen after 4.5cm. He's on this forum, check his diet and bone formation xrays. This is not meant to insult your character - this is genuinely a very bad idea.
You're about to go to a foreign country to get your legs broken, and you will be beyond handicapped for 2+ months. All of this alone. If you're getting offended on a forum, you don't stand a chance. This is coming from a place of brotherly kindness and love: my ultimate recommendation for you is to grow a pair of balls before you do this. I cannot stress how mentally and physically tough this is.
Looking forward to reading about your experience while you're in the hospital after surgery. Good luck man.
Not getting offended at all. your delivery is just disrespectful. I don't even let my mom talk to me like that, let alone some rando I don't know and never met. Your just weird man, that outburst came out of no where. who does that in a normal conversation? lol.. And I just said I want to eat better since I eat junk and hopefully drop weight while doing so. But you went the, let me be a di.ck for no reason route. I'm a grown ass man. Of course I'd take issue with a total stranger coming at me like that.. You talking sh*t behind the safety of a computer. So my balls are non-existent because I don't like a total stranger talking to me sideways? I think you was the short kid that got bullied and living out your dreams to be big and bad online. You should Have stayed a little longer in Istanbul. I'd would have LOVED to meet you face to face in Turkey when I got there later this month so we can have the same chat like we're having on line now to see how much "brotherly kindness" you'd like to give out to me in the flesh 
Learn to act normal.. That response was so left field. I don't know if you have an issue understanding social cues or not but that's not how you talk to someone if you disagree or truly concerned. Your a 30 year old man talking reckless on here far worse than our younger counterparts. But say no more..I'll keep my distance from you on here, because I don't fu.ck with disrespectful people who can't be normal and have a conversation.... No more need to be said..And Trust me, my Balls are HUGE... BBC Certified..Thanks for the good luck tho. 
Quote from: Growing on August 06, 2021, 08:02:02 PM..And Trust me, my Balls are HUGE... BBC Certified..
Big black... huh? 
Quote from: PerfectBody on June 09, 2021, 08:47:36 AMHey man, don't overdo this.
Eat plenty natural, whole foods. That's enough to set your body in a solid path to recovery. Vitamins, exercise, and supplements will ensure your bones heal with no problems. Anything extra won't help. Just let your body do the rest. Believe it or not this is not very complicated. Your body is an insane machine capable of crazy things.
Also:
I don't mean to praise Buldu's success in every post, but there's this one maniac here who achieved 8.5cm on femurs in about 58ish days. Towards the end of his lengthening process he was lengthening at 1.75mm/day with no problem, no nerve issues, and bone consolidation at a very fast rate. As a matter of fact I believe the doctor encouraged him to do so because his bones were consolidating too quickly. I have no idea how he did it, but he did. The guy is made out of steel I guess. Next week he's going to do his Tibias. Not sure what his diet strategy is.
Some people have no issues/pain with this - unfortunately I'm not one of them 
But yeah everybody is different.
That's amazing, dude. 1.75mm/d is way faster than recommended speed. And he had no nerve issues, and bone consolidation at a very fast rate? it will be so kind of you to share his diet strategy here.
Quote from: Joshua1996 on August 09, 2021, 11:02:27 PMThat's amazing, dude. 1.75mm/d is way faster than recommended speed. And he had no nerve issues, and bone consolidation at a very fast rate? it will be so kind of you to share his diet strategy here.
I have no idea what he was eating. In general people eat a lot; I hung out in his room and he didn't seem to have a hard-core strategy like I did. He was super young (~19), flexible and very lean. Keep in mind he went on to do tibias 2 weeks later.
Not suffering severe nerve pain was very beneficial to him. I do not advice following in his steps - it's very abnormal/lucky. Seriously, 1.25mm/day is good enough if you can handle it.
Hi PerfectBody! I hope you are recovering well in the US! Any update on your gait approx. 1 month since your first update? Has it improved? Do you still feel pain when walking/resting?
I am planning on having ~4cm LON on my femurs (178cm -> 182cm). I am aware of the fact that it will be super painful and willing to suffer for those centimeters also I am not in a financial position to have Stryde.. Will also be having the procedure with Dr. Buldu. Since I will be done with university in Spring 2022 I will have around 3 months of vacations and will be using that time for the lengthening. My question is did you feel able to walk (moderately) and study/work during consolidation phase? I am supposed to do an internship beginning of September (office work), do you think it will be too soon for me?
I wish you a very good and safe recovery and appreciate the effort you put in to keep this log.
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