Quote from: NotShortNow on July 22, 2017, 02:46:21 PMi can squat 5x130kg on my femurs now 1 year after my femurs surgery.Before surgery i could squat 5x150.So i dont think that you are right.You are right that i can not touch my butt with my heal if you understand me.But i am like 15cm close to my butt with my heal.As soon as i achieved that i stopped to stretch my quad muscles.Really you dont need to touch your butt with your heal.If i need more i can just stretch more.But really wont need it.
First you have to do it then to tell your story.Thats is what i dont like on these forums.Guys talk about it but they dint do any surgery.Or they did did surgery but they are lazy boys.If your lazy boy going to a dentist is gonna be hard.My leg is normal like before.The only thing that i lost is my sprint speed.I can run but my top speed is not as before. Strength is the same.Which is more important for me.
If you do a lot of cm of course you will have problems.There is no question about it.And doing femurs was best decision because i dont want to end up like other LL patients whit weird long tibia.It looks really ugly.No one can tell that i did anything that was my goal.But if your really short around 170 or less and you want to do femurs more then 5 cm then you should maybe think about doing nails.By the way there was a guy here.Japanese guy who did 12 cm cros lateral and at the end he did not have any problems.He finished in 1 year.He was the only guy in Armenia that was active almost as me.I Thoth him exercises and he was walking 3h per day.But he did not have any complications.He was lucky also.He did not walk without walker in the end mounts of surgery but he was pretty damn good.He was 170 before surgery and he finished with about 182.He did 183 but he compressed total 1cm from both surgery.
And how did i achieved frame removal in 4 mounts.To be specific ( i removed femur frames in 4 mounts and 2 weeks) Mainly because of complication.I would do it sooner.But i finished both tibias in 4 mounts and 5 days.My first tibia frame was removed in 3 mounts and 25 days and second 10 days after.I think i am like a record holder right 
How did i do it you ask ?? Well your name is the answer 
body building I workout every day 30 minutes in the morning easy exercises and every other day i did push ups pull ups dips and i lifted 20 kg weight.Sometimes i did shoulders and biceps.Sometimes back and biceps etc.Because of that i was always hungry.I eat 5 times per day like when you bodybuild. I eat protein shake and banana between 3 main meals and i did not eat any sugar. Patients here are like regular people so they just eat and stay in bad and then they walk with walker like old guys.Thats why they stay a lot longer.One chinese guy stayed 10 mounts for 5 cm.He eat junk food and smoke cigarettes. Body building is the answer my friend And Mirzoyan did good job for me, for someone else i dont know.I saw 6 guys in Armenia all of us finished successfully sooner or later.Only one guy had problems with leg that he could not bend and if he see this forum he will say that they did something wrong on him but it was his fault he eat sneakers and stayed in the bad all the time.And then i come in his room and i say MAN STRETCH YOUR HAMSTRING and he is answering NOPE i need to rest.LOL.Before i came to Armenia i read bad things about Mirzoyan also and i was sceptical a little bit but i still did it because i dont trust to anything that people say on internet.Did you do some limb lengthening bro or your thinking about it ? I am here to help you if you have any questions ask.
I did LL 4 years before you.
And I was and still am an amateur bber.
So when I say that it is almost impossible to lengthen 4cm and remove the frames in 4 months, I know what I am talking about.
Your bones weren't fully consolidated that's why you had subsided so much. I lengthened 7.5 cm and I didn't have even 1mm subside but I had my frames 11 months on to be sure.
So before you write you should know better to whom you answer before jumping to conclusions.
Doctor Arshak Mirzoyan Armenia - Read this before going to Yerevan
frame on 11 mounts ? you were really amateur then hahah You did lose.Do ct scan and compare it with first ct scan you will see minimum 3 mm difference.By compressing bones are healing.I bet you did bone traininng before they took your frames off right ? Bone training is when you return 2-3 mm back so your body can put full weight on your bone.Everyone who did LL compresses a little bit.Someone more someone less.I knew that before i did first surgery because i was talking with one guy who did it and he lost about 0.6mm also.You lose on femurs more because its only one bone.When you do bone training in the end of surgery you lose about 2 mm and then after 4-5 mounts you will lose a little bit more.But it's just a little bit not much.
If you had frame for 11 mounts dont give advice to people here about LL.11 mounts for 7 cm.It should be maximum 7 mounts.Because every normal healty persons bone heal in max 5 mounts and then we can add 2 mounts because there was lengthening. So please dont give advice to people here.
Quote from: NotShortNow on July 22, 2017, 05:28:59 PMframe on 11 mounts ? you were really amateur then hahah You did lose.Do ct scan and compare it with first ct scan you will see minimum 3 mm difference.By compressing bones are healing.I bet you did bone traininng before they took your frames off right ? Bone training is when you return 2-3 mm back so your body can put full weight on your bone.Everyone who did LL compresses a little bit.Someone more someone less.I knew that before i did first surgery because i was talking with one guy who did it and he lost about 0.6mm also.You lose on femurs more because its only one bone.When you do bone training in the end of surgery you lose about 2 mm and then after 4-5 mounts you will lose a little bit more.But it's just a little bit not much.
If you had frame for 11 mounts dont give advice to people here about LL.11 mounts for 7 cm.It should be maximum 7 mounts.Because every normal healty persons bone heal in max 5 mounts and then we can add 2 mounts because there was lengthening. So please dont give advice to people here.
You must be really stupid to write all these. And no, I haven't subsided at all. Maybe 1-2 mm? But nothing that even a ct scan could count. And for sure not half a cm like you for only 4 cm lengthening.
7 months frames on for 7cm? No one have done it ever.
All LL'ers on this forum who had external tibias, and I mean it when I say all, needed at least 40 days for each cm they lengthened.
So don't tell me to whom I could give advice or not, after all if you were a real "professional" you wouldn't have gone to Mirzoyan who screwed at least 2 persons in the old forum.
Also, anyone who does ilizarov on femurs (patiend and doctor) are a case of stupidity.
So you are not the one to give advices, not me.
Man are you crazy i was with Japanese patient who did 6.5 cm in 7 mounts and you did 7.5 in 11 mounts i would do it in 7 maximum.Read about bone healing.If you did it in 11 mounts that means that you did something wrong.You did not exercise enough or you eat crap food like sugar.I did exercises every day and i did not eat sugar at all.I made growth hormone a lot and i finish 4.2 cm in 4 mounts.If i did 7.5 like you i would finish in 7 max.I did 2 surgery's and 8.2 cm in 10 mounts total.So man you did something wrong.I am not comparing myself to normal patients because most of them are not active as much but man dont give advice to potential patients here if you were so slow.
Only a stupid man could say that I should not give advice because my bones healed in a normal amount of time and not in 1 month per cm like you claim, something that simply is very rare or impossible.
With this logic, people who have non alignments should not give advices at all.
After all, the moat important thing in LL is not to have very fast consolidation (which leads to premature alignment) but to avoid misalignments, muscle stiffness and all these. So if you really consolidate so fast you could never reach 6-7 cm as most of us did or want, because you would have premature consolidation. And this is a drawback, not a benefit.
Anyway, I'm out from this topic, after all I don't believe that any sane person would go to a butcher in a third world country to do external femurs with Ilizarov like you, so you prove who is the real crazy one.
Hmm...do I smell fish in here? Not sure right now, but what has been served definitely needs some salt 
And it belongs to "Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences" btw.
Quote from: Chris on July 23, 2017, 08:10:58 PMHmm...do I smell fish in here? Not sure right now, but what has been served definitely needs some salt
And it belongs to "Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences" btw.
Yeah,I definitely agree with you👌.He didn't even post any kind of pictures,no X-rays neither videos.And talks about Ilizarov method on femurs😑
I think the moderation should set more restricting rules about writing a diary:it should be an obligation to prove your experience .If it doesn't happen,"the diary" should be erased.
Actually any perfect stranger could write an "experience"
Who the fk goes there now?
average in Croatia is about 6'5"
Hi Folks
this Is my first post
Ilizarov on femurs is a really bad decision but my femurs looks short for me I want start from femurs I no like internal think in the bon I start to look a lot of diary ,I don't care about pain I already broken something.
what guys know about monorails?good and bad think about monorails?
Somebody have a plan to do LL in 2018 2019?
cheers Luther
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