Dr Leonid N.Solomin (St. Petersburg, Russia)

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Quote from: RobinKing44 on September 12, 2014, 02:10:48 AMokay so 7.5cm on tibia with external and 7.5cm on fib with lon which will probably cost how much overall?
And what do I do now to make this happen? do i get my passport ready,build up some cash, call the doctor,etc?

You'll regret it for the rest of your life!
No question about it.

LON in femurs puts an insanely large stress to the knees. It will take years to recover from doing 15cm like that.

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sweden, where are your sources for LON for femurs causing unimaginable stress on the knees?

full external for femurs(not LON, just external) would cause a massive probability in contracture. full external femur is a very bad idea.

it has to be LON or full internal for femur.

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ps 15 cm (7.5cm tibia, 7.5cm femur) is the very upper most "reasonably safe" limit.

maby 6 cm tibia and 6 cm femur would be a better idea if your using external for both.


certainly 7.5cm for femur can be reached with internal but for external its better not to go above 5-6 cm.

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I've experienced it first hand. There is no reason for me to lie.

4,5-5cm on tibias maximum.

5,5-6cm on femurs maximum.

If you use externals.

There is one benefit with external femurs: your doctor can check so that your mechanical axis is aligned. That is IF he knows what he's doing.

I know the idea of LON/LATN on femurs sound very good but it's not.
You will most likely recover to a very good point but the road is devastating.

My idea with external femurs is to do 4cm and do lots of exercises and boost your body with all the proper nutrition you possibly know of and hopefully you can be out of frames in 5 months - and then you're done with it. No IMnail, no plate, no nothing.
Femurs heal faster too bc of greater blood flow.
It should be possible.
Knees will get stuck in a bad angle but it recovers with time. It took my knees a full year to recover. Today I can fully kneel, squat, anything. Even better than the average Joe.

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QuoteThere is no reason for me to lie.
I never said I thought you were lying.

I did however think that you could possibly be incorrect.

you did tibia. LON for tibia is very bad for the knees, which 50% of people experience knee pain from it, and iv been told that anecdotally around 50% of people who get this knee pain get it as a chronic persistent form for a long time. so the end result is that LON tibia could cause chronic knee pain in 25% of cases. at least according to some doctors.

however as stated above we are discussing femurs. which does not have the intramedullary nail go through the knee but through the top of the femur bone.

I have not heard of this (femur, LON) causing knee issues. so I was curious to hear your sources.

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My friend did it 2 feet beside me in my room in India.

It was really devastating for his knee. He did LATP on his other femur bc of the horrific trauma and agony.
The guy shouted in fierce pain when he tried to move his "LON-leg".

Today he says he can run and do everything he wants but still need to do some physio every week.

LON in femurs is a terrible idea.

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statistical analysis for a style of operation needs more than 1 case.

but I gladly accept this case to state that LON femur "could" cause knee pain.

my questions would be.

given that sarin is not an LL specialist. did he place the intramedullary nail in through the knee or hip?
and second did the patient in question already do tibia or was femur his first operation?

and even if this was 1) conducted via the top of the femur, and 2) his first operation.
it is still possible that sarin is not a doctor who we should base our assessment on femur LON for.

but I still hear your statement and will keep it in the back of my mind.

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What the hell? Guys!! You drift of the topic, this doctor sounds good and with him operation may cost you less than 10k euros insanely competitive

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we are discussing this doctor. we are specifically discussing what is the safest method to get done when we use this Russian doctor.

given that he is cheap.

no forum topic is black and white. there is some grey. the things discussed here in this topic are important to learn.

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Quote from: GROWtalORdieTRYING1 on September 13, 2014, 05:01:05 PMwe are discussing this doctor. we are specifically discussing what is the safest method to get done when we use this Russian doctor.

given that he is cheap.

no forum topic is black and white. there is some grey. the things discussed here in this topic are important to learn.
Oh if then, I think that illizavor on femurs causes major discomfort and I have contacted the doctor and he didn't recommend it cause it is extremely uncomfortable, you cant bear it, safest method is external only for tibias and internals for femurs. Lon/Latn may speed up the frame removal, but they make this surgery more invansive. I think if you want fast recovery do 5cm on tibias, but if you want more height do up to 7 cm no more.