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Posted on Nov 13, 2018, 4:10 am
#381

Quote from: MirinHeight on November 12, 2018, 07:46:41 PMlol when will monegal patients (pts) stop promoting? does he give a discount for promoting him on here or something?

I am just stating facts here. Prospective Pts should stay away from monegal because past pts HIDE their negative side effects and promote him on here like hes some God. You are supporting a diary in which the pt cropped out xrays to hide the negative surgical outcome because of Monegal???

You guys might be mentally unstable and Monegal is taking advantage of it by manipulating you or hes paying you. Every pt must be truthful on here or it makes them, their diaries, and Monegal unreliable.


Lol
If you read it carefully and without blinkers this thread and my diary , you will understand what I mean. I mentioned about my experience shortly, I didn’t  defend and support his x Ray etc this is not my case and  I don’t know what Is Yagen doing but He seems good in videos. In conclusion the most important is to recover well. I respond you here because of attacking my Doctor WITHOUT LISTENING HIM.

That s why I say again, don’t believe %100 what people say here,make an always an appointment no matter Which doctor you choose,Monegal,Betz, Guichet, Paley or
Others.

Does generally speaking mean„promoting“?
Read it again without your blinker.
He doesn’t need really  promoting
And has now lots of patients in Mic.
We discuss in vain.


Anyway ,i share my X rays I share my experiences, my recommendations , complications etc on my thread. If you have any questions,i invite people there !

STAY STRONG!

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Posted on Nov 13, 2018, 9:08 am
#382

Quote from: Americanfootball on November 12, 2018, 11:00:02 PMyes im arrogant that means I don’t defend anyone! I don’t promote anyone.I don’t care what other people does. I just care myself and inform people  about everything.

Yes I’m vindictive that means if My Doctor was Bad person, I would explain his mistakes

If you read my diary , I explained some minor problems like knee extension etc.


Sorry Cinderalla I don’t want to kidnap this diary , most of them have mental problem.


Well yes, we all know the kind of mental issues this guy has. Already banned in 5 diferent accounts and checking his posts you will figured out that kind of disorder he has.
It is ok to defend your doctor, I also defend him because he fixed my issue which was way more tricky than CLL. The thing is: being you and I real patients we know that what this guy is doing is trolling and he has done it under many Alias. He is kidnapping and telling off people like you, me or Yag who are real....
Reading his opinion about the leader, the guy threatens and all this... just shows he has never met Dr in person and he is not a patient. That is why he does not post own medical info and refers to cases of  ‘non compliant’ patient or people who had a ‘ not ideal journey’

The point is to keep the forms and defend your point/Dr in a polite manner. If I was him and ever read you saying “if it goes wrong I would kill him” he would probably refuse to do your second leg.  So keep it down my friend. We all see you are happy with him and your doctor. We all see the kind of obsession this troll guy has. We all know Yag or your opinion stays above mirin’s because he/she is not a patient. But man, keep it cool and in a polite manner.

Be strong and keep it going

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Posted on Nov 13, 2018, 9:58 am
#383

Quote from: Cinderella on November 13, 2018, 09:08:46 AMWell yes, we all know the kind of mental issues this guy has. Already banned in 5 diferent accounts and checking his posts you will figured out that kind of disorder he has.
It is ok to defend your doctor, I also defend him because he fixed my issue which was way more tricky than CLL. The thing is: being you and I real patients we know that what this guy is doing is trolling and he has done it under many Alias. He is kidnapping and telling off people like you, me or Yag who are real....
Reading his opinion about the leader, the guy threatens and all this... just shows he has never met Dr in person and he is not a patient. That is why he does not post own medical info and refers to cases of  ‘non compliant’ patient or people who had a ‘ not ideal journey’

The point is to keep the forms and defend your point/Dr in a polite manner. If I was him and ever read you saying “if it goes wrong I would kill him” he would probably refuse to do your second leg.  So keep it down my friend. We all see you are happy with him and your doctor. We all see the kind of obsession this troll guy has. We all know Yag or your opinion stays above mirin’s because he/she is not a patient. But man, keep it cool and in a polite manner.

Be strong and keep it going



If it goes wrong, I would kill him before you!!!
Are you another troll !
Cindirella, you don’t need give a explanation to this sentence!!!
And do I have to ask you which in Manner should I talk?

I EXPLAINED IT!!!!!!!!!

Lots of people try to ruining Monegal reputation with false claims( that is for me „Killing‘)
That s why I have more right talk about him. This Sentence in Our Culture is normal.
Killing it means CALL SOMEONE TO ACCOUNT! before the people who are not of his patient!

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Posted on Nov 13, 2018, 10:03 am
#384

Understood my friend. I am also his patient and we all know this slandering has gone way too far.
Keep it going and have a safe journey. Say hi to your fellow LL when you go to Barcelona.
Keep it strong

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Posted on Nov 14, 2018, 3:02 am
#385

Keep on fighting, Monegal minions…

BUT let's not miss the point. 

I beg the rest of you to notice Yagen hasn't posted his uncropped xrays YET. He won't. He has the same or WORSE issues than COOper. He has been DEFINITELY EXPOSED as a manipulator and a Monegal promoter. Truth eventually comes out. No matter what Monegal's army of trolls argue.

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Posted on Nov 14, 2018, 5:40 am
#386

Quote from: Americanfootball on November 13, 2018, 09:58:11 AM
If it goes wrong, I would kill him before you!!!
Are you another troll !
Cindirella, you don’t need give a explanation to this sentence!!!
And do I have to ask you which in Manner should I talk?

I EXPLAINED IT!!!!!!!!!

Lots of people try to ruining Monegal reputation with false claims( that is for me „Killing‘)
That s why I have more right talk about him
. This Sentence in Our Culture is normal.
Killing it means CALL SOMEONE TO ACCOUNT! before the people who are not of his patient!


Why are you getting so mad and emotional? Why are you getting so heated trying to protect a doctor's reputation who has had botched cases such as musicmaker, cooper, etc?
Yagen wont even post his full un-cropped xray. When Lluser tries to ask why he wont post his full xray, all of you monegal promoters come attack Lluser when hes making a valid point.
I have read a lot of Monegal diaries and have come to the conclusion that Monegal is not a good physician and some of his pts seem to heavily promote him on here and hide complications. I have no biases, I just try to protect prospective patients on here and try to bring down their risks because I know this surgery is risky and complications can arise so it is important for patients to be honest in their diaries and not protect their physicians. 

Why are you getting so upset if people are trying to raise awareness on this issue so that future patients can have surgery with a better doctor such as Paley, Rozbruch, Mahboubian, Birkholtz, Parihar, Giotikas?

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Posted on Nov 14, 2018, 6:16 am
#387

in fact I think Monegal has had good outcomes in many patients, but what is most worrying is how there are patients dedicated to want to defend him. it just feels weird.

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Posted on Nov 14, 2018, 7:13 am
#388

We are not minions. I am just a thankful patient that cannot understand this permanent attack.
And indeed he has plenty of good outcomes and also these 2 haters That  have been arround for almost 3 years under multiple accounts.
Weird? It is weird that someone creates 5-6-7 accounts and daily attacks the Dr with more successful diaries here, kidnaps them and Crete’s drama.
Weird? A guy at 179 aiming to reach 182.5.

Promoting? Not sure if you have met them...but having “your” top doctors under your profile and not being a patient that ontly makes me think..
I don’t think you need LL.

Anyway, you can carry on attacking Yagen, the doctors or other patients. The most funny of all this story is you calling me a ‘minion’. I wish any of your children never have to go throught the issue I had. And if they did, I wish you could fined someone who could fix it as M did. Call it promotion, is fine. I call it being thankful.

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Posted on Nov 14, 2018, 7:44 am
#389

Quote from: Cinderella on November 14, 2018, 07:13:49 AMWe are not minions. I am just a thankful patient that cannot understand this permanent attack.
And indeed he has plenty of good outcomes and also these 2 haters That  have been arround for almost 3 years under multiple accounts.
Weird? It is weird that someone creates 5-6-7 accounts and daily attacks the Dr with more successful diaries here, kidnaps them and Crete’s drama.
Weird? A guy at 179 aiming to reach 182.5.

Promoting? Not sure if you have met them...but having “your” top doctors under your profile and not being a patient that ontly makes me think..
I don’t think you need LL.

Anyway, you can carry on attacking Yagen, the doctors or other patients. The most funny of all this story is you calling me a ‘minion’. I wish any of your children never have to go throught the issue I had. And if they did, I wish you could fined someone who could fix it as M did. Call it promotion, is fine. I call it being thankful.


I never called you a "minion"

I also said Monegal has had some good results but bad ones as well. Why should a pt go to a cll surgeon who has had bad outcomes, then his pts come on here and try to hide their complications? go read musicmaker and coopers diaries.

This is what liars do: when they get caught in a lie, they change the topic and get emotional. The names I have in my signature are names of very good LL surgeons who have not crippled their patients.

Many people on here will attest that I am one of the few people on here who actually knows what I am talking about. I do my own research and am not biased. What does how much I lengthen and the reasons behind it have to do with anything? Do you know my background, or reasons why I want to do the surgery? No you dont.
I was not even talking to you or quoting you. I was referring to Yagen and other pts who have hid their complications and promote monegal. I dont even know who tf you are. But this is a perfect example of Monegal "patient" attacking someone for truthfully calling out a pt who is lying in a diary and hiding complications. I do not want to give people with low integrity and morals any more time than this, so later.

P.S. I will continue to raise awareness on patients hiding complications due to Monegal, and promoting him on here. Thats not attacking the surgeon. That is called protecting future patients from health risks. If you don't like it, cry me a river. I do not care.

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Posted on Nov 14, 2018, 7:48 am
#390

Quote from: hotty on November 14, 2018, 06:16:53 AMin fact I think Monegal has had good outcomes in many patients, but what is most worrying is how there are patients dedicated to want to defend him. it just feels weird.


100% true. He has had good outcomes and bad outcomes too. But the fact that his pts want to hide their complications, post unreliable cropped x rays, defend him and view him as a saint/savior even if they are crippled, and ultimately promote him on here is just evil in my opinion.

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