Dr Naveen Talwar (New Delhi, India) Rockland Hospitals

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Cost estimation for Dr Naveen Talwar 10k USD for three month stay.   

LON/LATN Surgery: $7000
Accommodation: $250 for monthly stay at Hotel Payal in New Delhi. Total is $750.  (Booking.com)   
Round Way Flight  $1000 from USA To India   (Kayak.com)
*Food & Caretaker :  $400 Monthly.   Total is $1200

Another cheap accomodation is Hotel Su Shree Continental at $370 for monthly stay

*Using a ballpark figure of $400 USD as the cost of living in India is quite low.  In any case bring emergency funds when travelling.

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Here is information about Dr Gurdeep Singh Ratra, another of the surgeons that perform CLL along with Dr Talwar at Rockland Hospitals.



Background, Training, and Qualifications (From Website):

Brief Profile
Dr. Gurdeep Singh Ratra, Consultant, Department of Orthopaedics at Rockland Hospitals, has clinical experience of more than 13 years in the field of Orthopaedics. He has done fellowship in Joint Replacement from two of Europe's most prestigious Institutes - AKH hospital, Vienna, Austria which is one of Europe's largest hospitals; and Endoklinik, Germany which is amongst the world's premier institutes specializing only in Joint Replacement surgery.

He has special Interest in Joint replacement and Deformity correction. He is passionate about Ilizarov technique and limb-lengthening procedures. He has been associated with Rockland Hospitals since 2013 and currently he is rendering his services at Rockland Hospital, Manesar.

Professional Qualifications

• M.S. (ORTHOPAEDICS)
• M.Ch. (ORTHOPAEDICS)
• Fellowship In Joint Replacement (Germany)
• Fellowship In Joint Replacement and Sports Medicine (Austria)
• M.B.B.S.

Previous Experience:
Prior to Rockland, he has worked with some of the reputed hospitals of Gujarat and Delhi-NCR. His past consignment was with Fortis Hospital where he worked as Consultant, Orthopaedics. Also he has worked with Umkal Multi-speciality Hospital, Gurgaon, Sir Ganga Ram Hospital, New Delhi, Batra Hospital, New Delhi and MNL Municipal Medical College, Ahmedabad.

He also has a teaching experience during his Residency and Senior Residency period.

Speciality Interest & Expertise:
- Complex trauma
- Deformity correction (Ilizarov)
- Joint replacement

Training & Certifications
- Attended 5th National Trauma Management Course conducted under the aegis of Academy of Traumatology (India) and University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg, South Africa in December 2001.
- Attended the Exeter Course (for Hip Arthroplasty) in December 2004.
- Participated in Pre-Conference Hands-on Workshop on Basic Arthroscopy during the 49th IOACON.
- Participated in Pre-Conference Hands-on Workshop on Primary Hip Arthroplasty during the 49th IOACON.
- Attended International Symposium on Hip & Knee Joint Arthroplasty held in Hamburg, Germany from 31st May - 1st June 2007.
- Fellowship in Joint Replacement & Sports Medicine (Vienna, Austria) (2nd April to 15th May 2007)
- Fellowship in Joint Replacement (Hamburg, Germany) (16th May to 30th June 2007)

Research & Publications:
- “Posterior Spinal Cord Compression - Outcome and Results” in ‘Spine’ Journal Vol. 31 (17), 1 Aug. 2006, pp E574-E578.   
- “Tricalcium Phosphate Bone Grafting in Histiocytosis- X Scapula - A Case Report” in Orissa Medical Journal 2006 (Vol. 25 No.1 Pg 29—31).
- “Management Of Open Fractures – Original Article” in Journal of Orthopaedics 2007; 4(1)e18
- “Management Of Fractures Of The Calcaneum” in Journal of Orthopaedics 2009; 6(1)e3

Awards & Accolades:
- Prof. M.C.Mishra Memorial Award (Under the auspices of Indian Medical Association) for the best case report published in Orissa Medical Journal during the year 2006.

Professional Memberships:
- Indian Orthopaedic Association
- Delhi Orthopaedic Association

OPD Schedule
Every Monday to Saturday:10:00 AM- 4:00 PM  at Rockland Hospital, Manesar.

Here are samples from his website http://www.drgurdeepsingh.com. I believe this site shows cases from before he started working at Rockland Hospitals.

Ilizarov Fixator
Short leg before surgery:

Short leg after surgery:

Immediate post-surgery x-ray:

After lengthening:

Legs equal:

Legs equal:

Walking before surgery:

Walking after surgery:


Monorail Fixator
Deformity before surgery:

Short leg:

Patient before surgery:

Immediately after surgery:

X-Ray before surgery:

X-Ray immediately after surgery:

Beginning of bone lengthening:

Further lengthening:

Legs equal:

After lengthening:

Final x-ray:

Final x-ray:

Walking before surgery:

Walking presently:


Deformity Correction with Ilizarov
Badly deformed foot after accident:

Before surgery:


Immediately after surgery:

Gradually correcting:



After frame removal:

Final result:

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Don't mean to be a rock in the shoe but how many CLL surgeries have these surgeons actually done? Otherwise, very impressive creds.

Thanks for this info.

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You would think thats the first thing these guys would put up in ad like these.

Experience is more important than fancy credentials that can easily be polished up or even made up to some extent.

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Quote from: Kilokahn on April 04, 2014, 05:47:20 PMThe hospital rep said he's performed CLL before, but I didn't get into the specifics of whether the patients were local or international. I think most of his lengthening has been deformity correction. One of the articles I found with Dr Talwar was a story in Hindustan Times about how he did a deformity correction on a woman from Nigeria whose leg was shorter than the other by 5.5 cm.

I guess that answers the question. Aren't deformities more difficult and fickle than CLL? If their team can handle deformities like the ones above, wouldn't they be able to do CLL no sweat?

Also, Taylor Spatial Frames look pretty brutal. Those would be used for LON or LATN, correct? Do we know what kind of scarring and long-term recovery this device would yield?

Here is a leg that used TSF I found in google images.
http://andyw-inuk.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Community-Albums/Bike-Crash/P1080732/249960614_UE6Ck-L.jpg
This guy has tons of picts from over 14 month period.
http://andyw-inuk.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Community-Albums/Bike-Crash/6461906_ueRMN#!i=249960614&k=UE6Ck
Looks like he had an injury beforehand that required it.

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Quote from: Adriano on April 30, 2014, 02:54:21 AMYou would think thats the first thing these guys would put up in ad like these.

Experience is more important than fancy credentials that can easily be polished up or even made up to some extent.

The thing is though, many surgeons well-versed in Ilizarov are in the business to help people with serious deformities and functional problems. They may accept cosmetic patients, but if it's not their primary target then there's no need for them to throw advertisements everywhere, especially because of the risk CLL has.

Quote from: IamAndrew on April 30, 2014, 02:59:27 AMI guess that answers the question. Aren't deformities more difficult and fickle than CLL? If their team can handle deformities like the ones above, wouldn't they be able to do CLL no sweat?

Also, Taylor Spatial Frames look pretty brutal. Those would be used for LON or LATN, correct? Do we know what kind of scarring and long-term recovery this device would yield?

Here is a leg that used TSF I found in google images.
http://andyw-inuk.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Community-Albums/Bike-Crash/P1080732/249960614_UE6Ck-L.jpg
This guy has tons of picts from over 14 month period.
http://andyw-inuk.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Community-Albums/Bike-Crash/6461906_ueRMN#!i=249960614&k=UE6Ck
Looks like he had an injury beforehand that required it.

I've been of the opinion that a doctor who primarily does reconstructive surgeries with Ilizarov would be better for prospective patients than a doctor who primarily does cosmetic surgeries with Ilizarov because they would likely be better at recognizing and treating abnormalities that arise during the distraction phase. Dr Parihar said the same thing later and it reinforced my opinion on the matter.

From what Bigfaker wrote about his meeting with Dr Parihar:

"He [Parihar] talked about the fact that many lengthening docs are doing primarily cosmetic work and deemed it 'a paradox' because (in his opinion) the people doing lengthening should be the ones with very solid backgrounds in Ilizarov (which I took to mean Reconstructive/Deformity specialists like himself). An example he gave: if he treats a guy with an infected non-union, heals his bone, gets him to where his functionally is much improved...but still having a 1cm length discrepancy between legs... it's a success, a great positive result from where he was. With a cosmetic patient, if a doctor gives him 6cm gain, but reduces the dorsiflexion of the knee to just neutral, he has 'made that patient abnormal'. The margin for error in cosmetic lengthening is much less. Furthermore, he said, cosmetic patients are 'probably the most demanding subgroup of patients'. But they will be aware of the potential risks and complications. I think the most memorable thing he said is that any of the complications (non-union, neurological injuries) that can come up in cosmetic are 'part-and parcel of the Ilizarov techniques', so he would give the edge to a doc who has done 1000 reconstructive Ilizarovs over one who had 50 cosmetic."

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=87.15

Edit: As far as TSF goes, I'm not sure what the difference in scarring would be compared to traditional fixation devices. The good thing about them is that they allow for very accurate deformity corrections. Some doctors like using them even for cosmetic cases, whereas others think there's no advantage to using them in a cosmetic case and you're wasting money by using them for a cosmetic purpose. They do look like very sturdy fixation devices though.

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Just by looking at the complexity of Dr.Talwar's cases, a badly deformed limb that has no resemblance to a normal human limb and then correcting it to near anatomical perfection, CLL would seem rather simple and straight forward to him and his team. I would certainly be comfortable going to a doctor whose primary concern is treating abnormalities using Ilizarov techniques and not a doctor who primarily targets short people for cosmetic lengthening.

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Has anybody thought about going to this doctor? I looked him up on google and this article said Dr Talwar is considered one of the best doctors in Delhi.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/Doc+exodus+paralyses+Ganga+Ram+Hospital/1/80822.html

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Quote from: Gichelu on May 28, 2014, 10:21:03 PMHas anybody thought about going to this doctor? I looked him up on google and this article said Dr Talwar is considered one of the best doctors in Delhi.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/Doc+exodus+paralyses+Ganga+Ram+Hospital/1/80822.html

He's the first doctor I'll be consulting with and is currently in my top three options based on creds. I'll post details of my consultation with him afterward.

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Wow, dr Talwar looks so promising.
His price are amazing and I'd love to do LL with him, but... there is no real good story about him so I can't take the risk. On the other hand... He did worked with Paley before.

Is anybidy willing to do CLL with him?