Dr T Sringari (Gurgaon, India) Paras Hospital

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Posted on Nov 15, 2013, 4:55 am

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General Information about Dr Sringari from Paras Hospital, Gurgaon, India . Contact them for specific information and latest updates.

Note: please refer to our disclaimer about The Doctors Directory http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0

LON Method

- Consultation comprises of interaction with Dr. Sringari & his staff, Hospital tour, Residential facility tour, meeting with patients.

- Distraction rate is strictly recommended 1 mm per day or lesser depending on bone consolidation. X ray is taken in every 15-30 days to determine correct distraction rate. Physiotherapy is strictly recommended during entire distraction process. Entire process would highly depend on distraction achieved. In general it takes 6-8 months for entire procedure.

- External fixator will be removed after required distraction and Internal nail will be locked under general anesthesia. Internal nail would be removed after 18-24 months depending on solidification of bone at that time.

Cost

Package Cost for Limb lengthening surgery is 14000 USD.

Package cost covers Airport Taxi pick up & drop, consultation & Hospital Visit, Surgery Cost, 5-10 days stay in hospital, 3 months stay in India, 3 months food, Power 24/7, High Speed Wi Fi Internet, AC , Physiotherapy Twice * 6 days, 24/7 caretakers, Nurse availability, Doctor Visit as required in a week, Medicines, X rays, Blood test, Newspaper & Magazines, Any other required assistance.

Contact

Paras Hospital Gurgaon HR 12002 IN

Phone: +91 8130753737
Fax: +91 8130753737
Website: www.drsringari.com/
email: [email protected]

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Posted on Nov 16, 2013, 6:54 am

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We have x-rays more often than that, also no one stays in the hospital for 10 days after surgery lol. Me and the last patient stayed 3 days. Also, physio is only once a day pre 2cm then after 2cm it's twice a day. But, told to do certain exercises by ourselves so I guess that can count as twice a day. 1mm or less...? Nearly everyone has turned 1.25mm or for some even 1.5mm at some point.

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Posted on Nov 23, 2013, 12:16 am

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This was was posted in an unrelated thread, and I've decided to reply to it here so we can discuss it where people considering Dr. Sringari are more likely to read it.

Quote from: Kilokahn on November 22, 2013, 08:01:01 PMSomeone currently in Dr. Sringari's guesthouse posted something interesting on old forum - something that supported the previous assertion by others that Dr. Sringari is not experienced in cosmetic lengthening/does not have the proper sub-specialty training background.

"And before everyone jumps a bandwagon here, let me just say that I have confirmed with Sringari's staff that he IS NOT an experienced LL surgeon when it comes to cosmetic cases. His bulk of experience comes from cases where the Ilizarov frame was a necessary procedure for the patient, not an elective one. I don't have a doubt about his abilities thus far, but remember we haven't even seen someone walk yet, so in a sense I do feel like a guinea pig in the nascent of his cosmetic LL endeavours. Another reason I mention this is because the guest house is already crowded. If he allows more patients than he currently has now then I think that is irresponsible on his part. You can only fit so many people into one house. That is unless he plans on getting a second one..."

I was never keen on Dr. Sringari. Even if I did get surgery with him and got out of my frames, I wouldn't feel right afterward. I mean you may feel okay immediately after lengthening, but can you really think to yourself that you won't develop arthritis in your ankles or dislocate your fibula or something like that later after getting a highly invasive surgery from someone whose own staff doesn't have faith in him? I consider myself an adrenaline junky in that I love bungee jumping, skydiving, etc., but I don't have any desire to trust my legs to someone whose own staff calls him inexperienced.

I don't think inexperience specifically with cosmetic LL is much of an issue. LL is orthopedic surgery in one of its most simple forms, possibly its simplest. It's not like plastic surgery which has its own unique skill set. You're coming in with healthy legs, and all the doctor has to do is lengthen them without messing them up. An orthopedic surgeon with extensive experience in fixing messed up legs is, in my opinion, possibly even more desirable than someone who spends all his time on straightforward cosmetic LL cases.

Everything orthopedic surgeons do is a big deal; it's one of the most difficult specializations in medical school. There are a lot of warnings about LL and some doctors refuse to do it, but that would be true for any type of orthopedic surgery. Imagine if there were some cosmetic benefit to getting hip replacement surgery. Even the greediest quack surgeon probably wouldn't do it on a person with healthy hips.

Thoughts?

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This was was posted in an unrelated thread, and I've decided to reply to it here so we can discuss it where people considering Dr. Sringari are more likely to read it.

Quote from: Kilokahn on November 22, 2013, 08:01:01 PMSomeone currently in Dr. Sringari's guesthouse posted something interesting on old forum - something that supported the previous assertion by others that Dr. Sringari is not experienced in cosmetic lengthening/does not have the proper sub-specialty training background.

"And before everyone jumps a bandwagon here, let me just say that I have confirmed with Sringari's staff that he IS NOT an experienced LL surgeon when it comes to cosmetic cases. His bulk of experience comes from cases where the Ilizarov frame was a necessary procedure for the patient, not an elective one. I don't have a doubt about his abilities thus far, but remember we haven't even seen someone walk yet, so in a sense I do feel like a guinea pig in the nascent of his cosmetic LL endeavours. Another reason I mention this is because the guest house is already crowded. If he allows more patients than he currently has now then I think that is irresponsible on his part. You can only fit so many people into one house. That is unless he plans on getting a second one..."

I was never keen on Dr. Sringari. Even if I did get surgery with him and got out of my frames, I wouldn't feel right afterward. I mean you may feel okay immediately after lengthening, but can you really think to yourself that you won't develop arthritis in your ankles or dislocate your fibula or something like that later after getting a highly invasive surgery from someone whose own staff doesn't have faith in him? I consider myself an adrenaline junky in that I love bungee jumping, skydiving, etc., but I don't have any desire to trust my legs to someone whose own staff calls him inexperienced.

I don't think inexperience specifically with cosmetic LL is much of an issue. LL is orthopedic surgery in one of its most simple forms, possibly its simplest. It's not like plastic surgery which has its own unique skill set. You're coming in with healthy legs, and all the doctor has to do is lengthen them without messing them up. An orthopedic surgeon with extensive experience in fixing messed up legs is, in my opinion, possibly even more desirable than someone who spends all his time on straightforward cosmetic LL cases.

Everything orthopedic surgeons do is a big deal; it's one of the most difficult specializations in medical school. There are a lot of warnings about LL and some doctors refuse to do it, but that would be true for any type of orthopedic surgery. Imagine if there were some cosmetic benefit to getting hip replacement surgery. Even the greediest quack surgeon probably wouldn't do it on a person with healthy hips.

Thoughts?

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Posted on Nov 23, 2013, 1:52 am

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on November 23, 2013, 12:16:34 AMI don't think inexperience specifically with cosmetic LL is much of an issue. LL is orthopedic surgery in one of its most simple forms, possibly its simplest. It's not like plastic surgery which has its own unique skill set. You're coming in with healthy legs, and all the doctor has to do is lengthen them without messing them up. An orthopedic surgeon with extensive experience in fixing messed up legs is, in my opinion, possibly even more desirable than someone who spends all his time on straightforward cosmetic LL cases.

Everything orthopedic surgeons do is a big deal; it's one of the most difficult specializations in medical school. There are a lot of warnings about LL and some doctors refuse to do it, but that would be true for any type of orthopedic surgery. Imagine if there were some cosmetic benefit to getting hip replacement surgery. Even the greediest quack surgeon probably wouldn't do it on a person with healthy hips.

Thoughts?

If I thought it was only a lack of experience in purely cosmetic lengthening, then I wouldn't find that as much of an issue. However, I haven't heard from anyone, nor have I seen anything online, showing that he has experience in Ilizarov methods like correcting bone deformities, malunions, non-unions, bone infections, etc. He's almost completely absent of online presence and from word of mouth he's primarily trained in knee replacement, something that his website seems to support as the majority of his few listed publications on his site have to deal with knee replacement. If one looks at his About page on his site, they'll see that limb lengthening and reconstruction is simply thrown in there. I haven't seen anything about his qualifications that show he's ever focused on external fixation with Ilizarov methods or taken an advanced external fixation course, and that's what makes me disregard him as an option for cosmetic lengthening (well that and his involvement in the Sysop financial agreement/Phantom fake diary thing, which is another topic).

Just as an example:

Dr. Sringari's site: http://www.drsringari.com/about-dr-sringari.html
Compared to Dr. Parihar's site: http://ilizarov.in/about-us/dr-mangal-parihar.html

I can better trust that Dr. Parihar would know what to do in worst case scenarios regarding lengthening because he focuses on Ilizarov methods and has case studies and qualifications ("post-doctoral fellowship in Ilizarov Techniques with Dr. Dror Paley") demonstrating that. On Dr. Sringari's site, there's nothing in his qualifications that show strong experience with Ilizarov methods.

I know that Dr. Sringari is performing lengthening procedures on patients now, which counts as experience, though who's to say he's even performing them correctly where his patients won't have future problems? Can I rest easy with the feeling that I'll come out okay in the end undergoing lengthening with him? Probably not. Of course none of us are orthopedic surgeons and there's no way any of us here can say for sure whether a doctor is doing a procedure correctly or not since we don't have orthopedic training ourselves. But that's why it matters more to me to see some form of credentials that would support he's probably good at what he does, so I can be able to better trust the surgeon.

I don't think limb lengthening is all that simple of an orthopedic surgery judging from how many disasters there are of people getting crippled, reports of people having shin splints after surgery for years later, serious fractures, the risk of damaging blood vessels, and even accepting the possibility that you may need to get your legs amputated if the procedure is performed incorrectly (something Dr. Birkholtz even asserted is possible in a worst case scenario). For something this invasive, I need to be absolutely confident that my orthopedic surgeon not only has the proper medical qualifications, but is also ethical (also important for trust), and I don't get the impression that Dr. Sringari has either of those things. Maybe others have opposing views, but that's how I see it.

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on November 23, 2013, 12:16:34 AMI don't think inexperience specifically with cosmetic LL is much of an issue. LL is orthopedic surgery in one of its most simple forms, possibly its simplest. It's not like plastic surgery which has its own unique skill set. You're coming in with healthy legs, and all the doctor has to do is lengthen them without messing them up. An orthopedic surgeon with extensive experience in fixing messed up legs is, in my opinion, possibly even more desirable than someone who spends all his time on straightforward cosmetic LL cases.

Everything orthopedic surgeons do is a big deal; it's one of the most difficult specializations in medical school. There are a lot of warnings about LL and some doctors refuse to do it, but that would be true for any type of orthopedic surgery. Imagine if there were some cosmetic benefit to getting hip replacement surgery. Even the greediest quack surgeon probably wouldn't do it on a person with healthy hips.

Thoughts?

If I thought it was only a lack of experience in purely cosmetic lengthening, then I wouldn't find that as much of an issue. However, I haven't heard from anyone, nor have I seen anything online, showing that he has experience in Ilizarov methods like correcting bone deformities, malunions, non-unions, bone infections, etc. He's almost completely absent of online presence and from word of mouth he's primarily trained in knee replacement, something that his website seems to support as the majority of his few listed publications on his site have to deal with knee replacement. If one looks at his About page on his site, they'll see that limb lengthening and reconstruction is simply thrown in there. I haven't seen anything about his qualifications that show he's ever focused on external fixation with Ilizarov methods or taken an advanced external fixation course, and that's what makes me disregard him as an option for cosmetic lengthening (well that and his involvement in the Sysop financial agreement/Phantom fake diary thing, which is another topic).

Just as an example:

Dr. Sringari's site: http://www.drsringari.com/about-dr-sringari.html
Compared to Dr. Parihar's site: http://ilizarov.in/about-us/dr-mangal-parihar.html

I can better trust that Dr. Parihar would know what to do in worst case scenarios regarding lengthening because he focuses on Ilizarov methods and has case studies and qualifications ("post-doctoral fellowship in Ilizarov Techniques with Dr. Dror Paley") demonstrating that. On Dr. Sringari's site, there's nothing in his qualifications that show strong experience with Ilizarov methods.

I know that Dr. Sringari is performing lengthening procedures on patients now, which counts as experience, though who's to say he's even performing them correctly where his patients won't have future problems? Can I rest easy with the feeling that I'll come out okay in the end undergoing lengthening with him? Probably not. Of course none of us are orthopedic surgeons and there's no way any of us here can say for sure whether a doctor is doing a procedure correctly or not since we don't have orthopedic training ourselves. But that's why it matters more to me to see some form of credentials that would support he's probably good at what he does, so I can be able to better trust the surgeon.

I don't think limb lengthening is all that simple of an orthopedic surgery judging from how many disasters there are of people getting crippled, reports of people having shin splints after surgery for years later, serious fractures, the risk of damaging blood vessels, and even accepting the possibility that you may need to get your legs amputated if the procedure is performed incorrectly (something Dr. Birkholtz even asserted is possible in a worst case scenario). For something this invasive, I need to be absolutely confident that my orthopedic surgeon not only has the proper medical qualifications, but is also ethical (also important for trust), and I don't get the impression that Dr. Sringari has either of those things. Maybe others have opposing views, but that's how I see it.

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Posted on Nov 23, 2013, 5:30 am

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I disagree with some of you guys- CLL is hugely different from any other LL. They both exist for much different reasons and even require different techniques and procedures. There are doctors much more experienced in CLL that I would take any day over any regular LL surgeon who's well-experienced.

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Posted on Nov 23, 2013, 9:27 pm

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I'm starting to have doubts about my previous post in this thread. I just went to that same guy's old forum diary and found this quote:

"The other issue is my left leg. Mobility in my toes and ankle in this foot are limited. I could move my toe before, but right now I cannot, unless it is massaged and coerced to do so by someone else. When I bend the ankle, I can feel stress in both the upper and lower pins on the outer leg. Sringari said this will subside over time. He said the pins are through the muscle right now, which is what is causing the issue."

What the hell is Sringari doing putting pins through muscles? Does he not know how to aim? I personally saw and talked to ~30 foreign patients in Beijing and nobody had a pin through a muscle.

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Posted on Nov 23, 2013, 10:42 pm

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There was a post on Make Me Taller today where a user highlighted two contradictory statements made by patients of Dr.Sringari. Naturally, SysOp deleted it and edit some posts.

LL ForumorLife said the any statements about Dr. Sarinari's lack of experience is a misconception while Ashoka1 admitted that Dr. Sringari had no experience in cosmetic leg lengthening. Naturally, SysOp deleted it and edit Ashoka1's posts.

I think having Dr. Sringari on this list is madness as we don't know if he can lengthen someone's legs without fail.

You don't send an electrician to setup broadband in someone's home just because they both work with copper lines.

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Posted on Nov 24, 2013, 2:36 am

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Quote from: FrankGarrett on November 23, 2013, 10:42:02 PMThere was a post on Make Me Taller today where a user highlighted two contradictory statements made by patients of Dr.Sringari. Naturally, SysOp deleted it and edit some posts.

LL ForumorLife said the any statements about Dr. Sarinari's lack of experience is a misconception while Ashoka1 admitted that Dr. Sringari had no experience in cosmetic leg lengthening. Naturally, SysOp deleted it and edit Ashoka1's posts.

I think having Dr. Sringari on this list is madness as we don't know if he can lengthen someone's legs without fail.

You don't send an electrician to setup broadband in someone's home just because they both work with copper lines.

I feel kind of bad for those on old forum that have no idea this forum exists, because they continue to fall prey to the scams of that board. There was a post asking why there are so many Sringari diaries instead of Beijing diaries and a user responds with something like "Common sense. Why would you pay double for the same operation?" I'm just like...*headdesk*.

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Posted on Nov 24, 2013, 5:11 am

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Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you know that the post on old forum I made about Dr Sringari not having extensive experience with cosmetic LL was deleted by sysop at my request. The reason being it was causing to much of a stir and I didn't want a bunch of questions pertaining to it being directed at me. I wrote it based off of vicarious information from this site as well as the email from his office desk which stated he's only done 33 cosmetic cases thus far. I never asked him during consultation how many he's done. Why? Perhaps, I was fearful of the answer at that time and was wanting this done. He took the time to allow me questions and I did not ask it. I'm here now and can only work to achieve a good outcome.

Regarding the pins through muscle, Dr Sringari came to see me this morning and I asked him about it. I didn't really catch the answer fully but I think he said through muscle is fine, as long as you avoid critical structures like nerves, tendons, ligaments. This worries me because I know the muscle is supposed to be avoided. I think the muscle was avoided on my right leg because I don't have that pin strain. It's the one pin on my left leg that feels like it's through muscle. He says it will calm down but I think it will need to be replaced. We'll see how it plays out.

http://www.boneschool.com/lower-limb/knee/tibia/ilizarov

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Posted on Nov 24, 2013, 5:18 am

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Quote from: Kilokahn on November 24, 2013, 02:36:17 AMI feel kind of bad for those on old forum that have no idea this forum exists, because they continue to fall prey to the scams of that board. There was a post asking why there are so many Sringari diaries instead of Beijing diaries and a user responds with something like "Common sense. Why would you pay double for the same operation?" I'm just like...*headdesk*.

It really does have to do with money though. Beijing charged me $25,000 (eventually $26,500 with internal nail removal) and that was the absolute maximum I could afford. Someone in my financial situation couldn't afford to go there anymore. India is the cheap place now.

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