Dr Xia & Dr Li (Beijing China) Institute of External Fixation Technology

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What do you mean by that? Do you mean that your scars were so negligible you forgot about them?

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Hey Programming dude

Loved your comment about how much better doggie style will be after LL :-).  I'll be so much better with longer femurs as now I have to balance on two pillows to do it :-(

haha

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Lol just being honest! Right now it works fine half the time but for taller chicks it is usually really awkward.

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Emailed them but still haven't heard back. Not sure whats up. I am currently undecided between them and cracking open the piggy bank and going with someone like paley.

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Quote from: programdude on May 09, 2014, 02:18:47 PMLol just being honest! Right now it works fine half the time but for taller chicks it is usually really awkward.

Why is it usually really awkward Program dude? I thought longer Femurs means it would be easier doing doggystyle on tall chicks?

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Hey all,

I am planning on Beijing in Aug now and got a list of items to bring, please see below.

 1, photos for visa extension in china

2, Converter or voltage transformer if it is necessary. 110V-220V.

3, wiring board

4, Medicine and food supplements

Bring some daily medicine or food supplements here which you get used to at home or some painkillers suit for you.

 
Does anyone know what the wiring board is/for?

Cheers

Liam

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If I had to guess, they probably mean a computer.  But I know Wang Bei knows the word "computer", so that's still kind of strange.

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Does anyone know if Beijing is still planning to offer internal femurs, or have they scrapped that idea altogether?

It would be nice if they could come out with a reliable but affordable internal nail. I've never understood why internal lengthening nails have to cost $13,000+ a piece when the technology inside them is straightforward enough for a layman to comprehend. Surely good quality metal, like titanium, doesn't cost 10K. It's not like they're diamond nails. R&D must add to the cost, but if Beijing could make something similar to the existing betzbone or g-nail, and thus save on or eliminate most of the costs of R&D, it would be a dream come true.

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That idea has indeed been scrapped altogether with little hope of being revived.  They can't legally import foreign nails into China, and Wang Bei said they're not able to design and manufacture their own (she didn't state why not though).

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Current domestic patient here. The operating surgeon is a man named Dr. Ma. Haven't seen Dr. Xia or Wang Bei in more than a month. All future cosmetic LL patients will be in the new hospital, YanDa International Hospital City (called a city because there are many large hospital buildings here) in Hebei, 1.5 hours from Beijing. Foreign patients pay more than 2 times as much as domestic patients. Less than 5 foreign patients here and not many domestic patients for cosmetic LL.

Internal methods is not and will not be a treatment option here. China is a country that values tradition, so don't expect modern treatment reflecting new research. Look up intramedullary nail and knee pain incidence rates (meta-analysis shows >50% knee pain for some time after rods are inserted).

The new hospital looks nicer, but isn't. The "beds" lack mattresses, causing serious problems for almost every patient here. Just 3 inch pad on a very hard, metal surface. Bed/pressure sores are a big problem. Many patients can't sleep because of this. The bathrooms smell like sewage every day and small flies are everywhere. The water has a very bad, strong smell. Food is not included in the price. Budget 70 yuan a day for food. There are few food options here since the hospital is located in a rural area (6 restaurants here). If you don't have family here to bring you food, your options are: KFC, Pizza Hut, only 4 local restaurants that will deliver here and the hospital cafeteria. KFC, Pizza Hut, and the hospital cafeteria are expensive. The local restaurants don't offer much variety. One is a noodle place, the other is a rice place, and two offer some meat, but very little for the price. Their menus are small too, so food gets boring after 4 months. Guang Ji is in Beijing, so it's easy to get good food there. There are also many small, hidden fees at the new hospital. They said we have to pay for any medicine we use. Very strange. Also, Wang Bei has no authority over the new hospital. The nurses here have different management, so there have been some awkward situations where Wang Bei gives directions to the Guang Ji maids here, but the hospital nurses don't let the maids comply with her instructions.

Physical therapy is very important, but not included in the price. Your suggested physiotherapy routine will be to stand and walk. Not very good, compared to other countries. Google the importance of physiotherapy or research it at http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/. Should be easy to find reputatable research -- you can also check out Dr. Dror Paley's 600+ page textbook on LL where he talks about how bad physio can ruin a good surgery.

Freedom is limited. You aren't allowed to leave the hospital floor unless you are in very good condition and beg. Even then, you will rarely be let outside. Be willing to spend least 4 months on only one floor of a hospital.

Communication is hard for foreigners. If you can't speak Chinese...it is very hard for you. Internet is unreliable, sometimes 10kb/sec for several days (worse with VPN...), so don't expect Google Translate to help when the doctor comes in once a week for his 30 second visit. Wang Bei visits once every 4-5 weeks, so she can't help you much for the small conversations.

After the surgery, it's up to you to make sure you get good results through lots of walking, standing, stretching. If you don't want to exercise, you don't have to. Many domestic patients do not, so they take a long time to recover and suffer more pain during lengthening.

Not sure why foreigners would come here. For your price, I would go somewhere else.