Quote from: segandre on January 04, 2022, 01:17:36 AM60kg is to little weight, very few adult men (profile of most of those who do LL) weight less than 60kg, so this makes no sense.
sorry but there are many adult men who weigh around 60kg.
also OP said he's 150 lbs that is around 68kg.
Quote from: segandre on January 04, 2022, 01:17:36 AM60kg is to little weight, very few adult men (profile of most of those who do LL) weight less than 60kg, so this makes no sense.
sorry but there are many adult men who weigh around 60kg.
also OP said he's 150 lbs that is around 68kg.
Quote from: canterk on January 02, 2022, 04:02:02 PMHey bagofmilk congrats on your surgery. Care to share photos of your hotel room? And also sorry if already posted I must have missed it but how much did you pay in total including accommodation? Thanks and wish you a speedy recovery!
Hey Canterk! 
I have a few photos of my room on IG (bagofmilk2022) including each room and the view of the room. Scroll down to the bottom of my IG. Let me know if you can see them. I can take some new ones if you want me to.
Interms of pricing. You might want to msg AFA and ask for the current pricing, I did hear from the other patients of new price update for 2022 already. The package does include almost everything. I have only paid for food so far... everything else is included, even the drugs & supplements like calcium and D3 etc.
Quote from: segandre on January 04, 2022, 01:17:36 AM60kg is to little weight, very few adult men (profile of most of those who do LL) weight less than 60kg, so this makes no sense.
I weigh 150 lb about 68 kg...I do believe im very average. Thanks for posting your first ever comment on this forum tho 
... Hopefully you are not a toxic fake account from one of the other teams here in Turkey. If you want to see my body stature or my progress. you can check my IG.
Day 6,7,8,9 (Dec 26, 27,28,29)
These 4 days are the days are the days where I gained most of movement back. The pain levels also settled down dramatically. I believe I got up and off the bed at least 5-10 times a day. I got so bored of lying down. I forced my self to move around with the walker. Pain killers were rarely given to me at this point. As I didn't even bother asking for it. Non of the pain I felt was unbearable. 0 pain lying down or even standing up . 2-3/10 pain for 30 second to 1 min, at mid night to morning times around the osteotomy site. 3-4/10 pain when pushing my self in the knee bending movements to the limits. I was able to watch a ton of YT videos and not even be bothered by any type of pain. Doctor took a walking video of me with a walker. You can see it on my IG. The nurses finally learnt my name and remembered my face. They are all so friendly. The hospital prescribes antibiotic needle injections through the IV. When it is injected too fast I felt abit of burning sensation in my veins. Once I asked the nurses to slow down the injection. It felt alot better. Overall... I was super pleased with the condition I was in. Sleeping with the Ring Fixator was getting alittle tough. Your feet are hanging in the air all the time ... You will need to put a pillow below your lower legs and maybe even wear a splint (shoe like device to keep you feet upright while sleeping). This prevents ACL contracture. You don't want to keep anything below your knees, to prevent knee contracture. I have also started lengthening on day 7. The process is super simple. This Modified IRF has three rods on each leg. It uses a 10mm square wrench to turn the nut. Quarter turn = 0.25 mm. I do it 4 times a day = 1mm. You do not feel anything when turning it. Painless. Check my IG for the video of the lengthening video.
Day 10 ( dec 30th)
Discharged from the hospital at 5 pm. Doctor did decide to let me go one day early. I have not been taking nor asking for pain killers since day 4. Walking seemed very good. Knee bending while walking with walker was super natural. My Edema (swelling) was rapidly decreasing by the day. My feet was pretty much back to normal. The Legs and ankles area were the only parts that still trapped some fluids when standing up for too long. I did raise my legs higher by putting a pillow below when lying down. I was able to put on my own socks, shoes, fat pants etc. Also packed my own bags while standing up. Felt super motivated to be picked up and go back to my hotel room. Doctor prescribed me all my meds and supplements for the lengthening period. It was filled and brought up by the drug store near the hospital. Super convenient. Ozzy and Mr.F from AFA showed up at 5:30. I got into a normal car, didn't need extra spaces or anything for ride back. I was eager to eat something other than the hospital food. So Ozzy made a pit stop at a burger king (yes, burger king exists here in Turkey) and got me some fries, ketchup and a cheese burger. I was in heaven... literally. The car ride was about 1.5 hours. Besides abit of stiffness in the knee area. I was literally in zero pain for the whole ride back. Once we got the hotel. Ozzy pushed me to my room in a wheel chair. While Mr.F went to grab me my new improved walker with 4 wheels which also worked as a chair!. I love it! The only thing is.. realizing I couldn't go around the room like I used to just 9 days ago; I cant use the shower either for the next month to two was somewhat sad. I was mentally prepared for it... but once you get into the reality of it all. It gets real. On the other hand... I was going to be spending new years with my fellow LLers here at the hotel seemed to be promising.
Day 11 ( Dec 31st )
The first night at the hotel without a caretaker nor nurses to watch over me.. seemed some what lonely. I slept very well almost a full 8 hours. Woke up the next day just in time for breakfast on the first floor. I was able to take my self down to the restaurant with the new walker. The ladies there saw me cripple in with a walker ... made them alittle sad. I had to explain to them that I was getting this done on my own will, for the purpose of getting taller. Then they all became motivating and started to help me with all the little things around the place. I love them! I did get into a habit of bringing and eating breakfast with fellow LLer in their room before the surgery. I was determined to get back into the habit, which I did. Felt amazing to be able to bring breakfast to a fellow friend just after the surgery. I had my first PT session with AFA at 12 pm. The PT room is conveniently located in the hotel. My physical therapist was Turkish whom spoke good English. We both had good vibes towards each other. The session was very challenging to say the least. It is two hours long with many movements targeting almost every muscle and ligament in ur lower body. I do have to admit. This will help me tremendously in my rehabilitation process. Your bones will out grow your soft tissues. So you are always playing catch up with your soft tissues. The more you do during lengthening, the less pain you will be in after. I will up date once again soon! thanks for reading! check my IG for my scars photos.
Hi Milk, thanks for the updates. Curious about the nail removal protocol are they doing it also after 1 year like most others? I know you are sharing your photos on IG but how do you feel about how they treat patient privacy? I ask because I know some other Turkish doctors or teams post a lot about their patients and maybe sometimes without consent? Interested to know how the AFA team and doctor handle this concern in particular.
Quote from: canterk on January 05, 2022, 09:00:20 PMHi Milk, thanks for the updates. Curious about the nail removal protocol are they doing it also after 1 year like most others? I know you are sharing your photos on IG but how do you feel about how they treat patient privacy? I ask because I know some other Turkish doctors or teams post a lot about their patients and maybe sometimes without consent? Interested to know how the AFA team and doctor handle this concern in particular.
Hey canterk 
As to what I know. The internal titanium weight bearing nails I have can be removed from year 2. Most will choose to remove them around year 5, after bone remodelling. Some patients may also choose to keep them in forever. It will not cause problems in the long run. They can be removed to improve extreme sport or other functional purposes. The precise nails are required to be removed after one year or after consolidation. I will ask the doctor to confirm, once I see him again.
Interms of privacy. AFA team have always asked me for my permission before they take a single photo or video. They have always been keen on making me feel super comfortable about this issue. Even when you agree to share, they will ask you if you want just lower body, or blurred face etc. You shouldn't have to worry about this with AFA. Im with many other patients whom choose not to even share a single picture or video. The team respects that and from what I have seen. They have not even taken a single photo of them. This was one of my major concerns as well. This is a surgery we might want to keep to our selves... forever. I just personally wanted to share my photos and videos, hopefully helping out a fellow or two. You are totally correct on how some other Turkish teams take photos and videos without consent and even posting them.
what made you choose this doctor over Dr. Inan? i understand AFA is also connected with Dr. Inan? Was it the price, availability, something else?
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