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Posted on May 12, 2023, 4:38 pm
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Surgeon's skill is said to be affected by his/her age.
Do you think that matters?
Especially, some of the most famous LL surgeons are already sixty or older.
How will it likely affect the surgery result?

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Posted on May 12, 2023, 7:21 pm
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This surgery really isn't that complicated, any ortho worth their salt can insert a nail into a healthy bone. CLL cases are some of the easiest around, it's far harder when say, the leg break happens in a car accident and a nail needs inserting.

The difference in outcomes is primarily a result of what happens after surgery and noticing/fixing complications before and as they arise. So I wouldn't personally be concerned about the surgeons age really.

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Posted on May 13, 2023, 2:45 pm
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Agreed with the comment above this one. Also I would almost argue that the older the better, since this most likely mean that they have more experience. The more experience a surgeon have the better...

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Posted on May 14, 2023, 1:40 am
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Quote from: p00293 on May 12, 2023, 07:21:07 PMa result of what happens after surgery and noticing/fixing complications before and as they arise.


These are also parts of the surgery, so basically the whole procedure is quite complicated and does require full attention from the doctors and their abilities.

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Posted on May 14, 2023, 2:04 am
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Quote from: p00293 on May 12, 2023, 07:21:07 PMThis surgery really isn't that complicated, any ortho worth their salt can insert a nail into a healthy bone. CLL cases are some of the easiest around, it's far harder when say, the leg break happens in a car accident and a nail needs inserting.

The difference in outcomes is primarily a result of what happens after surgery and noticing/fixing complications before and as they arise. So I wouldn't personally be concerned about the surgeons age really.


Have had 2 orthos tell me exactly this. It is one of the easier operations they can perform.

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Posted on May 14, 2023, 4:12 am
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I thought CLL is one of the hardest surgeries so only few surgeons do this. I heard this surgery is hard and takes lots of hours like 4+hr, demanding tough physical and mental abilities from surgeons.

Speaking of age, i remember Dr.Paley is around +70 yo. He's obviously best surgeon but wouldn't you have any worries if you do it with him?

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Posted on May 14, 2023, 6:02 am
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Quote from: lovinglonglegs on May 14, 2023, 04:12:31 AMI thought CLL is one of the hardest surgeries so only few surgeons do this. I heard this surgery is hard and takes lots of hours like 4+hr, demanding tough physical and mental abilities from surgeons.

Speaking of age, i remember Dr.Paley is around +70 yo. He's obviously best surgeon but wouldn't you have any worries if you do it with him?


This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard lol. Internal femur nails (PRECISE 2.2) literally takes 45 minutes per leg and thats with suture and bandaging up included. There are videos on youtube. I watched them enough prior to the surgery I already know each and every step.

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Posted on May 14, 2023, 7:57 am
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Quote from: lovinglonglegs on May 14, 2023, 04:12:31 AMI thought CLL is one of the hardest surgeries so only few surgeons do this. I heard this surgery is hard and takes lots of hours like 4+hr, demanding tough physical and mental abilities from surgeons.

Speaking of age, i remember Dr.Paley is around +70 yo. He's obviously best surgeon but wouldn't you have any worries if you do it with him?


It's quite simply not a hard surgery. That obviously doesn't mean a random guy off the street could do it, but inserting a nail is bread and butter for any orthopedic surgeon. Even butchers like Sarin can usually insert a nail without messing it up, the problems come AFTER surgery with guys like that.

Think about it, an ortho will often have trauma cases involving broken bones that did not have a clean break, most often in accidents. That's a lot harder than making a break yourself with the bone still perfectly aligned.

It's not as simple as something like getting a tooth removed or getting botox, but for anyone trained in orthopedics it's not difficult when compared to other surgeries within that field.

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Posted on May 14, 2023, 5:23 pm
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Quote from: DanishViking on May 13, 2023, 02:45:28 PMAgreed with the comment above this one. Also I would almost argue that the older the better, since this most likely mean that they have more experience. The more experience a surgeon have the better...


It has more to do with the technical skill of the surgeon.

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Posted on May 15, 2023, 2:18 pm
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Above 40 but below 60 is the sweet spot imo

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