Femurs & Tibias with Dr Paley

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Great to hear you are doing well

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Glad you're doing well, and I hope you make it to 7cm! Quick question though, have you ever heard of a procedure where there is a nail drilled into your foot to maintain neutral dorsiflexion? As far as Dr. Giotikas is concerned, this is a sure fire way to achieve 7cm, albeit it does have some manageable pain with it. He has told me it is an option, and those who have taken the option have in his experience, the greatest results. I am also going for 7cm stryde tibia next January. Just wanted to know if there was any mention of that at all by Paley.

Also, in your previous posts regarding using a slant board for your stretching, is this in your opinion the very best way to stretch? I have a month and a half till my operation and I'm thinking about utilizing your method. Thanks for the great diary thusfar and best of luck to you!

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Quote from: throwaway12 on November 20, 2019, 10:50:41 PMGlad you're doing well, and I hope you make it to 7cm!

Also, in your previous posts regarding using a slant board for your stretching, is this in your opinion the very best way to stretch? I have a month and a half till my operation and I'm thinking about utilizing your method. Thanks for the great diary thusfar and best of luck to you!

Wow that’s cool i’m gonna ask about that i’ve never heard about that

Yes the slant board is the best stretch. Id recommend doing 3 minutes each leg for 3 rounds. Id say do that like once or twice/day

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UPDATE:
So because I am doing 0.75mm on odd days & 0.5mm even days, in a month thats 18.75mm
I’ll be hitting 4.1cm at the end of this month

If they let me keep going, by the end of January I will be right at 8CM
The time is coming guys its starting to get REAL!!! I will stretch as much as I can so they let me keep going but chances are Jan31st is the end of my lengthening journey


HERE WE GOOO

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Greatest comeback in LL history! 8 CM let's get it!

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How many hours/day did you stretch during your femur lengthening? Would you recommend stretches before the femur surgery? If yes, then what kind of stretches?

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MyEvolution, glad to know that you are doing well with tibias lengthening, great comeback! I hope you can reach your goal of 7~8cm.

Would it be safe to say that it would require a least 2x stretching exercise for tibia than femur? Also, would you recommend that doing tibia lengthening first for those want to do both femurs and tibias?

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Good luck dude. Can’t imagine going thru this process twice. You’re an animal in every sense haha hope you maximize your opportunity!

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To go from a starting height of 5'5"/5'6" to nearly 6 foot tall is extraordinary. Give this man a medal! Good luck, bro. No matter what happens.  You should be inducted into the CLL Hall of Fame. 

Someone needs to start a CLL Hall of Fame...lol. I certainly have a few people I would nominate. 

All the best,

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Quote from: vonchanzo on November 21, 2019, 02:53:46 AMHow many hours/day did you stretch during your femur lengthening? Would you recommend stretches before the femur surgery? If yes, then what kind of stretches?

When I did femurs I only had to do my stretching routine 4x/day compared to roughly 10x/day rn
Not sure if that’s 2x but it feels like a lot more because i’m stretching every hour

My femur stretching routine was
Thomas stretch, 45 second each leg 2 rounds
Rope hamstring stretch to the sky 45 seconds 2 rounds
Knee pushdowns 20 reps each leg on the floor
Single leg toe touches, 45 sec each leg 2 rounds
Did this routine 4x / day (everytime i use the ERC machine)

Deciding what to do first femurs or tibias really depends on your preferences for pros and cons

Femur surgery pros
- 8cm pretty much guaranteed
- less stretching required less maintenence
- scars are higher easier to hide
- most people after achieving 8cm realize they are happy and dont need to do part2

Cons
- your walking gait is affected a lot more because you lose your glutes
- way more inflammation pains, nerve pains muscle pains becuse more muscles
- PT actually sucks - that IT band BURNS with a pain of 10/10 each time
- more strength lost due to major muscles affected
- takes roughly 4 weeks for your hips and sides to not be inflammed to the touch which means u can FINALLY sleep on your sides

Tibias
Pros
- less overall pain due to less muscles (dont b fooled tho still lots of pain)
- less inflamation
- because glutes are not effected, walking gait is much better. I walk a lot better than all the femur patients eventho they did their surgery 3 weeks before me
- hips unaffected so easier to move your body around on the bed

Cons
- Must wear Splints which is annoying AF especially at night makes sleeping way harder
- way more maintenence. You can’t just stretch 4x/day and expect to hit 8cm it’s just not gonna happen. Requires a lot more work ethic. I almost got stopped at 3cm
- hitting over 5cm is not gaurunteed even with high work ethic. I’m only at 3.5cm right now so i can’t confirm anything till I hit it
- scars are hideous and show alot more than femurs

So you gotta choose for yourself what you’d rather deal with. They both suck, which suckness can you handle more. More pain/highly effected walking/major loss of strength but gaurunteed 8cm gain? Or less pain, better walk, high work ethic but 8cm is not garunteed
Your call