Cooper,
It's a little concerning that none of Monegal's other patients are posting, even when you shed light on this whole thing. No one is out here defending him and neither is he. When lluser was posting he and all his other patients were having a fit over it. This is too silent for them and I would like to hear from them about all this?
Quote from: blahblah on March 28, 2016, 01:15:23 AMCooper,
It's a little concerning that none of Monegal's other patients are posting, even when you shed light on this whole thing. No one is out here defending him and neither is he. When lluser was posting he and all his other patients were having a fit over it. This is too silent for them and I would like to hear from them about all this?
Patients have reservations from posting because of users like LLUser1. He got one unhappy patient to divulge private and medical details about other patients and started posting them on this forum and even made a post about stalking patients at the guest house. And also lots of creepy stalkerish details like the number of times a patient has flown to see Dr. Monegal or whether or not someone is rich and has a pool at their house.
LLUser1 deserves the ban for abusing his access to patient details, not for what he exposed about the doctor.
I also don't think it is other patients place to come here and defend the doctor when Cooper's major complication is real.
Wish you a speedy recovery Cooper.
I communicated a bit with this guy last summer, and it just all seemed fishy to me. He kind of like yes'd me to death and make it seem like I could do 3cm on my tibs and be walking like super fast (with Fitbone). Just seemed way too good to be true. Dr. Catagni and Dr. Paley both refuted his claims (anonymously, I didn't tell them it was he I was consulting with) as laughable. For me, when I do tibs, it'll have to be either Rozbruch or Catagni.
Cooper, you will get through this. PM me if you need anything man! You were one of the stories I followed when I was researching femurs like two years ago now lol
Today I have spoken with doctor Monegal about what is said in the forum about him and I've asked him if he could explain to me his point of view.
I'm not the judge for this trial. I am neither against nor for Monegal/Cooper, but if I'm interested as a patient in knowing what has happened
The doctor told me that he has had enough attacks in the forum and that is not going to get into it, because another user could appear tomorrow saying anything about his patients, and it will be the neverending story.
The doctor told me that he can not give names of their patients, a nickname of a user in a forum could be other person.
The doctor could not disclose specific information from a patient's own (radiographs, exchanged messages) regardless of whether a patient speak well or bad about him.
The doctor tells me that one of his patient sent by mail planning how to perform postoperative leg. This patient told him to remain under supervision for 1-2 months in Barcelona al MIC apartments to control evolution. This patient two week after surgery decided to return to his country, so the doctor could not track the patient. The patient was sent just 2 radiographs during lengthening and healing phase.
The doctor has told me more things of messages exchanged each other by whatsapp,, the patient told him that he does to a normal life and traveling.
I do not want to go into the details of these messages but they give a lot to think about this case.
Are you Cooper this patient?
If you are this patient, I think you have to be more honest. Not all doctors are bad, and not all patients are saints.
This surgery has many risks and if certain guidelines are not followed, the risks increase.
I hope you get to meet the expectations that you have marked.
About Justice in Spain, you can go to the Spanish courts and if you do not agree with the verdict, you can go to the European Union. The courts of the European Union are above Spain, Germany or any other european country.
As I said I'm not the judge, only I bring here the point of view of the doctor, but if I have not post more information that doctor told me about this case, because I think that this is enough, and I do not look for a guilty.
This is like when a plane goes down, it is not only the amount of things but is the accumulation of many things which brings down a plane.
My best wishes Cooper.
Got to say it... Monegal (& other surgeons) can't respond to hearsay/psychodrama on public forums because they are bound by confidentiality. They could (all of them) just decide not to bother doing CLL, at all...
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First and foremost, I’d like to wish Cooper a full & speedy recovery. At the end of the day the health and function of his limbs is the most important thing here.
Quote from: Cooper on March 24, 2016, 09:19:47 PMBan monegal effective immediately and stop any patient going to him wherever possible. If I can save one life, leg or limb than I feel my diary has serve good for this community. Why let dishonest/crook surgeon come to forum and exploit the harmony of forum and most importantly destroyed people lives.
I do however want to voice my opinion on comments he’s made that I don’t particularly find balanced/fair. Now, before all of you known trolls come out of the woodwork to tell me that I’m a fake, made-up patient who doesn’t know what he’s talking about then let me stop you in your tracks. I know Cooper. I was in Barcelona doing bilateral femurs when he arrived for his tibia surgery. I showed him around the guest house before his operation, and we’ve broken bread together many times since. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Cooper, not only as a fellow patient, but also as a human being that has been VERY successful in the REAL world due to his own hard-work and perseverance.
Therefore, you can imagine that he was at the top of my list when it came time to talk about possibly doing bilateral tibias with Dr. Monegal. I spoke to Cooper on the phone for more than an hour about his tibia complications, his post-op dialog w/ Monegal, and his follow up visits with other doctors. Yet, after hearing all of his complaints I still decided to give Dr. Monegal the benefit of the doubt and I went through with my bilateral tibia surgery. YES, you’ve read that correctly. Even after hearing the “nightmare” that Cooper experienced, I still opted to undergo the exact same surgery with the exact same doctor. Do I regret this decision? No, not at all. If you’re wondering, why? Keep reading.
As always there are two sides to every story. As was explained to me, Monegal did recognize that Cooper had a problem, largely due to misalignment that had occurred during the distraction process. However, to Dr. Monegal, this misalignment was always within a manageable range and his intention was to correct this when Cooper returned to have his other tibia operated on. Unfortunately, by this time Cooper had lost all faith in Dr. Monegal and shut him out completely. From my understanding the proposed fix should have taken Monegal approx. 15 min via the manipulation of Cooper’s leg and some existing screws. The end result would have been the introduction of a “polar” screw that sits behind the fitbone nail and anchors it in place so that it cannot deviate inside the tibial canal. As a preventative measure Monegal placed 2 such “polar” screws in my tibias and I can tell you that I suffer from no misalignment. I have lengthened 4.5cm to date and my implants are anchored just as well as they were the day of surgery. I have little to no discomfort, have ankle flexion of 120 degrees, and am generating bone in both tibias and fibulas.
To surmise:
Do I think that Cooper had legitimate concerns regarding the evolution of his tibia? Yes, absolutely.
Do I think that Dr. Monegal was willing, wanting, and capable of addressing Cooper’s concerns? Yes, I do. If he’s talented enough to fix compound fractures & limbs on the verge of amputation under his watch as an orthopedic trauma surgeon, I doubt cosmetic misalignments fall beyond his ability.
Do I have an opinion on whose fault it was that Dr. Monegal lost Cooper’s trust? That’s finger pointing that wouldn’t do anyone any good. At the end of the day I think there was a massive failure in communication between patient/doctor, and had this not been the case the outcome may have been very very different.
Moral of the story:
LL is extreme surgery. Complications can & do arise. Doctors are not perfect nor infallible. Patients are not perfect nor infallible. If you don’t have 100% confidence in your surgeon, or have reason to believe that your confidence in them may be eroded should you encounter a complication, DO NOT commit to surgery.
Best to all & happy lengthening.
Quote from: LLCaptain on March 28, 2016, 02:08:58 AMI also don't think it is other patients place to come here and defend the doctor when Cooper's major complication is real.
agreed. how could they possibly know more about cooper's situation than cooper himself.
Quote from: paddy10tellys on March 30, 2016, 06:28:43 PMGot to say it... Monegal (& other surgeons) can't respond to hearsay/psychodrama on public forums because they are bound by confidentiality. They could (all of them) just decide not to bother doing CLL, at all...
Not a problem at all if the surgeon is unethical to begin with. it seems the doctor is disclosing details of cooper's case to his other patients who, for some reason, feel compelled to elaborate on cooper's case on the forum.
Hey ShortDarkAndHandsome. I appreciate your info. Thank you.
ShortDarkAndHandsome, see, my problem is that Dr M in emails very much implied music maker was his only complication.... That isn't the case...
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