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Quote from: SpeedDialer on September 27, 2022, 01:38:43 PMI did some very rough math for Novotel, did I make any obvious mistakes?

If I do internal tibias, I think I'd need to decide between Novotel and between the handicap room at Montaza

Novotel 86*7=602 euros but then subtract out 4*13 euros for money saved on shorter taxi trip
602 - 4*13 = 550 euros per week when factoring in money saved from a shorter taxi trip

montaza hotel I think is like 61 or 62 ish per day for a handicap room, which seems like 427 ish Euros per week

Across 6 months for internal tibias, that could be like 123*4*6 = very roughly 3000 more to be at Novotel versus the montaza hotel handicap room

1. How often do the nurses come to Novotel? I think you said earlier it was they come just when some has a specific problem and also early on their journey?

The other x factors are the noise at Montaza from the strip clubs and also whether the upcoming potential arranged travel option will go to Novotel (I have to think it would, given how close Novotel is to Montaza though)

2. How big are the desks in the room at Novotel? They are pretty tiny at Montaza

3. How's the noise at Novotel?

Thanks!!!!

I think your calls are about right.
For the food menu, I'll take a photo and try to upload in a later post. In general the menu is great. Lots of salad with proteins (chicken, Ceasar, Halloumi and more). Various burgers (beef, chicken, vegan), a number of pasta dishes, salmon, scallops, pork chops and a few others I can't remember. They also have nice cheese platters and other finger food options.

The high point though (for me) it's the breakfast. I mean it's a buffet with a huge variety of options. From greens, veggies, eggs made in various ways, cheese, hams... Then move onto sweet stuff with croissants, cakes... Won't continue there's too many things. Perhaps if you guys navigate to google reviews of this hotel I'm sure there'll be plenty of images that describe the breakfast variety here.

I usually go there pretty early (like 630am for a big morning feast after my clicking) and then top it off around 1030am for an early lunch.

Then, answers to your queetions
1- the nurses told me it doesn't matter whether it's Novotel or montaza. They will.come visit you until it's needed. Most patients tend to become independent in about two weeks or so (which is also the turn over time for new surgeries). So naturally they tend to show up less and start focusing on the new patients. However, they did told me that if I were to have problems with clicking or any specific chore they will be helping for the entire lengthening. Obviously, if one tries to abuse of this service, they'd probably figure it out and be less available, but so far I felt they've definitely overachiever my expectations.

2- see image attached. They're big enough to do work on them. I'd say 1.2mt by 0.5mt. plus they swivel so you get a double surface.

3- absolutely no noise whatsoever.

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Desk image here
https://i.imgur.com/lIDhdV4.jpg

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Thanks!!! Could you post a picture of the bathroom? I couldn't find any handicap room on their website https://www.novotelathens.gr/

Just curious if there are any hand rails or anything

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Quote from: OzBoy39 on September 27, 2022, 02:47:53 PMDesk image here
https://i.imgur.com/lIDhdV4.jpg

Offhand, it seems like novotel wins in these catgories:

- has a gym w/ an easier to use bicycle
- nicer
- bigger
- pool, but maybe has some dangerous steps? Not sure if internal tibia user can use
- desk bigger -> better for gamers
- closer to PT center
- better selection for breakfast buffet and other meals
- less noise / don't have a dice roll of whether you happen to be near montaza's nearby strip clubs
- ? not sure if it has a handicap option w/ rails?
- ? is it near a busy road? i'm assuming not if noise is not a problem

And montaza has:
- more frequent nurse visits
- cheaper
- has a handicap option with wall rails, though my current handicap room is pretty close to the strip club noise
- even if you are not near the strip club noise, the car noise outside is significant just like for the hyatt option, both hyatt and montaza near a busy road

hyatt
- don't know anyone who has gone with this option yet, but its across the street from montaza, most expensive option I think, has the busy street noise but should be farther away from the strip club noise

I'd say both have friendly staff it seems and good room service

1. Something I'm wondering about though is do you know of anyone who did internal tibia only? I'm a bit curious about how much help they need to enter the taxi

At Montaza, I've had Bill or Evi every PT day help me get into the taxi. Although technically with gnail femur now, I don't need their help anymore, it was extremely useful like maybe the first 11 days or so to have their help for that transfer

I'm a bit curious for internal tibia how much help someone needs to transfer into the taxi from the wheelchair and how much the novotel hotel staff help with that

2. How's the internet at Novotel? Its OK at Montaza

3. How are the food prices at Novotel? Oh wait sorry nevermind I see you said you will take a picture of the menu

I'm starting to wonder for internal tibia if a few weeks at Montaza's handicap room (for increased nurse support) followed by moving to Novotel like the girl did is the best option if someone can afford it or if that midway hotel transfer is not  that useful

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I'm guessing your room type is "Superior" room type?
https://www.novotelathens.gr/%cf%84%ce%b1-%ce%b4%cf%89%ce%bc%ce%ac%cf%84%ce%b9%ce%b1-%ce%bc%ce%b1%cf%82/superior/

They seem to have superior, superior with double couch (don't see the use of a double couch tbh), superior twin (don't see the use of having two small beds), executive room (don't know what it has), and suite (which gives the impression from the image they posted of being very large, but I am not sure)

I'm guessing that Evi the nurse has the 86 euro per night deal w/ the "superior" style room? Which appears to be their basic room type

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So I realized in another thread my math might be wrong

If someone goes to physical therapy 4 times per week, then there are actually 8 taxi rides per week (to and back 4 times)

So actually someone will save like 13*4*2 = 104 euros ish per week I think? not sure if I screwed up the math again but if true, this would mean that novotel is much closer in price to montaza than I thought. Though I'm not sure if this will change when the prearranged transport kicks in that Evi (a nurse) mentioned

I think if someone is in externals though I wonder if that more constant nurse support is just really helpful, exposed wounds, pin infections, having the nurse look at the pin sites more frequently, more help getting into the taxi consistently from the nurse not sure

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Man, CHILL down!!!

You can't just dump any thought you have in your head on multiple diaries. It makes them hard to read for everyone.

Plus many of the questions you have made have been answered before.

 I already said about the nurses coming here as frequently as the other hotels. They go where the patients need. They stay at Montaza these days because you guys needed them there.

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Quote from: OzBoy39 on September 28, 2022, 02:19:53 AMMan, CHILL down!!!

You can't just dump any thought you have in your head on multiple diaries. It makes them hard to read for everyone.

Plus many of the questions you have made have been answered before.

 I already said about the nurses coming here as frequently as the other hotels. They go where the patients need. They stay at Montaza these days because you guys needed them there.

That’s exactly what I’ve been trying to say to SpeedDialer.

SpeedDialer, you’ve been on this forum for 3 years. You are not a newbie to leg lengthening, but you still act like it by asking every basic question about LL that has been answered before or which you can easily find out by doing a little research.

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Evi advised me via email when they start using the SUV to transport patients the average ride will cost between 7 - 15 euros depending on the distance. This seems like a substantial saving, particularly if you're staying at Montaza. I hope they roll it out quickly for you guys so you can confirm 

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Hi Ozboy39
Congrats on your LL journey!! . I arrived  at the Montaza recently and will be doing my surgery tomorrow with Dr Giotikas

Thinking of moving to the Novotel after 3-4 weeks given the amenities as I don't really like the idea of being confined to a small room for a long period of time.

How often do you find yourself using the hotel amenities like the pool, gym etc and how does their laundry service work at the Novotel? Thanks