Quote from: shortisnotfun on September 11, 2023, 12:02:25 PMAnother guy who hasn't done the surgery having a strong opinion. This surgery is not on the same level as a nose job or a hair transplant, and you know that!
I've done LL. You are getting push back on your insistence that there's some sort of moral obligation to disclose LL. Your question of how to tell is fine. Your insistence that it's somehow wrong to not tell is what's absurd and generating critical responses. Bottom line, you come across like you are terminally blue pilled and don't understand how women interact with men. You do you. Perhaps post about how you told your gf and how things turned out after doing so. That would be more productive than trying to convince others they should feel obligated to be open about LL. They are not being unethical keeping LL secret. That's your misconception. You are delusional if you think women don't hide things from their bf or husband. Not trying to hurt your feelings but you are so off base with all this you seem like you are just trolling us tbh. Again if you feel guilty and the need to tell your gf then go for it, you do you, I'm not trying to convince you not to be blue pilled.
How do you tell your future wife/gf you were 5 inches shorter before?
The fact that you say that ll is like gender change surgery means how disturbed you are. It is just a cosmetic surgery and nothing like gender changing. It is the same as a nosejob or boobjob. Might ne more complex and stuff but from an ethical and moral standpoint it is the same as those two.
Quote from: informationispower on September 11, 2023, 01:47:38 PMThe fact that you say that ll is like gender change surgery means how disturbed you are. It is just a cosmetic surgery and nothing like gender changing. It is the same as a nosejob or boobjob. Might ne more complex and stuff but from an ethical and moral standpoint it is the same as those two.
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Shortisnotfun. Your're so stupid to listen to. First of all I'm going to have the surgery done early November, and surgeons in the world ain't allowed to have an opinion either since they haven't done it? Second of all everybody is allowed to have a opinion about a given topic, and if you can't tolerate someone having a different opinion then you shouldn't use this forum. My arguments are based on the research I have done for more than a year now and just using basic logic, not with fear like many men. I have told my girlfriend and she's going with me, and has supported me from the start. If your're in a relationship with a girl who don't support your goals and don't understand your desires / goals in life then leave ASAP...
Quote from: DanishViking on September 11, 2023, 05:31:31 PMShortisnotfun. Your're so stupid to listen to. First of all I'm going to have the surgery done early November, and surgeons in the world ain't allowed to have an opinion either since they haven't done it? Second of all everybody is allowed to have a opinion about a given topic, and if you can't tolerate someone having a different opinion then you shouldn't use this forum. My arguments are based on the research I have done for more than a year now and just using basic logic, not with fear like many men. I have told my girlfriend and she's going with me, and has supported me from the start. If your're in a relationship with a girl who don't support your goals and don't understand your desires / goals in life then leave ASAP...
Who are you doing your surgery with? You can reply in DM if you want.
In any case good luck
Quote from: LeoGb on September 10, 2023, 11:20:41 PMMy current partner had a nose that was not to her liking, she decided to have a rhinoplasty and some time later I introduced her to my family and we never mentioned the surgery, they made comments like her "nose" was very pretty, but she never mentioned that she had surgery, neither did I, it is not necessary.... Why? because people unconsciously underestimate people who have surgery and when the results are not natural they just don't give them the value. It's like the guy who is 5'10" and they say "Wow, he looks so cute this tall" but if they find out that he used to be 5'7", they will simply say ""Ah, he looks good, but he has surgery"" unfortunately people are like that. I am going to increase my height, about 6 cm. only my partner will know, she is the one who is going to take care of me, the rest of my family doesn't have to know, there are things that don't need to be revealed to the public, and that doesn't make you a bad person.
Yeah try doing that with a woman. Shes going to open that big fat mouth of hers and tell the "committee of women" like they all do. That will include her mother, sister, best friends, and probably other random people. Women are by nature gum flappers. Men can just not tell anyone something and not care.
That being said...5 inches is an absurd amount of height. If you do 5 inches you should expect everyone to know about it.
The whole package is important.
If height was objectively speaking your visually worst attribute, it's natural wanting to raise height to the same level as your other characteristics.
Just mention is nonchalantly, as it should be, that you gained a good amount of height just because you wanted and because it was possible.
Outsiders seem to mock LL because they think it's painful af, but it's like any other operation, it hurts when you wake up, and when you rest it's as good as painless.
And because it seems like a very hard thing to achieve they are making the argument, that you really try hard for some underlying reason. But just because it requires time, does not mean someone is inherently a tryhard in this whole process.
Preferably you have more than that going for you, so that it can blend in naturally to you being someone who just wants to achieve things in life more than the average, and it was one part of many.
Thats why proportionmaxxers keep on winning. In case anybody is wondering, taking the secret to your grave, is the only valid solution. As for the rest, use your mind to rationalize all the rest.
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