Quote from: FileoFlex on December 17, 2022, 09:54:44 AMOk with 8 and 5 I can grow to 175cm. Thanks.
And how many months, years do I have to wait between the two surgeries ?
It's usually recommended to wait 12 months between the 2 surgeries, but as little as 8 months may be fine to get the max length of both femurs (8cm) and tibias (5cm).
The main reason to wait several months between the 2 surgeries is because muscle tightness after lengthening the first segment will be a big obstacle from reaching your max limit on the next segment. You need months of stretching so your muscles are sufficiently stretched for the next lengthening. Also, other reasons are so your muscles and nerves have time to adapt to your new length, and most of your bones are consolidated in your first segment so your bone formation and consolidation will be easier on your second segment.
I have a video on quadrilateral lengthening.
https://youtu.be/CJqiTxXtsbc
Quote from: Height Journey on December 17, 2022, 03:49:25 PMIt's usually recommended to wait 12 months between the 2 surgeries, but as little as 8 months may be fine to get the max length of both femurs (8cm) and tibias (5cm).
The main reason to wait several months between the 2 surgeries is because muscle tightness after lengthening the first segment will be a big obstacle from reaching your max limit on the next segment. You need months of stretching so your muscles are sufficiently stretched for the next lengthening. Also, other reasons are so your muscles and nerves have time to adapt to your new length, and most of your bones are consolidated in your first segment so your bone formation and consolidation will be easier on your second segment.
I have a video on quadrilateral lengthening.
https://youtu.be/CJqiTxXtsbc
ok thanks. Good video !
Wingspan doesn‘t really matter man. I am honest. Recently I watched those livelifetaller videos. And the salesman/moderator guy who talks in most videos was lengthened from 157 to 177 with a wingspan of 165. I didn‘t know this in the beginning however, guess what, I did not notice anything off with him. After he said in one video he did 20cm (that‘s really extreme btw) I specifically looked at his arms and I still thought he looks normal. Yes maybe a little bit shorter with -12 wingspan but it‘s really not a big deal. I would never sacrifice height after an insane hardcore surgery like this because of wingspan tbh.
Femur/tibia ratio is more important. In your case I would definitely not go with tibia. Go with femur +8cm or so you will look great, I can promise.
Quote from: RealLostSoul on December 22, 2022, 01:09:59 PMWingspan doesn‘t really matter man. I am honest. Recently I watched those livelifetaller videos. And the salesman/moderator guy who talks in most videos was lengthened from 157 to 177 with a wingspan of 165. I didn‘t know this in the beginning however, guess what, I did not notice anything off with him. After he said in one video he did 20cm (that‘s really extreme btw) I specifically looked at his arms and I still thought he looks normal. Yes maybe a little bit shorter with -12 wingspan but it‘s really not a big deal. I would never sacrifice height after an insane hardcore surgery like this because of wingspan tbh.
Femur/tibia ratio is more important. In your case I would definitely not go with tibia. Go with femur +8cm or so you will look great, I can promise.
Thanks for your comment !
So if i lengthen to 175cm my arms will not look short ?
The femur/tibia ratio is 1/1 ?
Quote from: FileoFlex on December 22, 2022, 03:35:24 PMThanks for your comment !
So if i lengthen to 175cm my arms will not look short ?
The femur/tibia ratio is 1/1 ?
Nah I don‘t think arms will be an issue.
Your ratio is most definitely not 1/1. that would be very abnormal. It‘s maybe 0.85/1 or something like that. But yea just go for femur.
Quote from: FileoFlex on December 22, 2022, 03:35:24 PMThanks for your comment !
So if i lengthen to 175cm my arms will not look short ?
The femur/tibia ratio is 1/1 ?
Your arms will look short. Only a minority of people has arms that are 5cm shorter (or more) than their height.
You are only 1 surgery away from hitting the limit.
Check height vs wingspan graphs online.
Try to get out as much from femur lengthening. Not more than 8 cm though, which is already a lot.
Quote from: LLprime3 on December 22, 2022, 07:14:57 PMYour arms will look short. Only a minority of people has arms that are 5cm shorter (or more) than their height.
You are only 1 surgery away from hitting the limit.
Check height vs wingspan graphs online.
Try to get out as much from femur lengthening. Not more than 8 cm though, which is already a lot.
And if i lengthen my arms it can be good ?
Some people consider the SHR to be a major limiting factor regarding proportions. What is your sitting height?
Quote from: EndGame on December 27, 2022, 02:41:48 AMSome people consider the SHR to be a major limiting factor regarding proportions. What is your sitting height?
What is the SHR ?
My sitting height is 80cm.
Quote from: FileoFlex on December 27, 2022, 10:09:10 AMWhat is the SHR ?
My sitting height is 80cm.
Sitting height ratio
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1720514/pdf/v090p00807.pdf
The Dutch have long legs and low SHR vs other populations and these graphs and data might be generous regarding normal ranges in other places for LLers.
It was my understanding that 0.50 is generally the lowest one should go if they care about proportions.
You look leggy pre LL but not oddly so imo. You can Google and search forum for more info. I don't like your proportions post LL mockups. Generally people have to sacrifice proportions to gain height. Decide how much makes sense for you and go for it. Personally beyond 0.49 looks noticably weird to me.
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