Quote from: bander72 on March 08, 2017, 08:48:59 AMThere's a reason why Paley charges more for tibia and recommends to do femurs first. Even in external there is more risk with tibia. If it was not so painful and produced horrible scars more doctors would do externals on the femur.
More risk for what though? Athletic ability, death, tendon issues,?
What exactly would more risk entail?
Quote from: yyes on March 08, 2017, 03:38:24 AMThose 10 months are too long though. Unless you have alot of funds and don't care about losing job or seeing friends and family.
What do you say to someone if they ask did you get taller?
Even if you do Lon, you should have the frames for about 5 months and then you won't be able to do all the things you used to with your kegs like running, jumping, dancing etc cuase of the risk of nail bending.
Furthermore, with Lon you need another one (not so minor) surgery to put out the nail about 2 years after you stopped lengthening.
Imo, if you have time and patience, external only in tibias with good fixators is always better than external with LON.
If I turned back time I'd again do external only but this time with Ilizarov and not monorails. The second is more convenient but with Ilizarov you can walk as it is weight bearing and this decreases the risks of muscle atrophy and ballerina foot.
I haven't walked at all for more than 5 months when I had monorails and I am maybe lucky that my leg muscles are somewhat back to normal.
To people, I told that I had a bike accident and thats why I wore external fixators.
The height is something that almost all saw but hardly anyone mentioned to me and after some times they comoletely forgot about that and I think they thought that it was just because they have to see me for a long time due to my "accident" and nothing changed in my height.
I don't know what they thought to be honest.
But when I'll do my second LL then I don't think I can hide the new height. I will never admit that I did anything like LL but I'm sure that many people would understand that something has changed.
Anyway, I don't really care for the others, I just want to be relatively tall and hut 5.11. Thats only matters for me.
@ yourspaceboyfriend: if you prefer Birkholz or any other doctor who uses precise 2 from monegal who uses fitbone because this nail is not weight bearing, you would be dissapointed to read that precise 2 is not weight bearing too.
So do a better research before writing things that you don't know. You have many posts here so your knowledge about LL should be better than thinking that fitbone is not weight bearable while precise 2 is.
The only weight bearing nails are the obsolete guichetnail and betzbone, no else, at least for now.
Quote from: Body Builder on March 08, 2017, 04:56:31 PM@ yourspaceboyfriend: if you prefer Birkholz or any other doctor who uses precise 2 from monegal who uses fitbone because this nail is not weight bearing, you would be dissapointed to read that precise 2 is not weight bearing too.
So do a better research before writing things that you don't know. You have many posts here so your knowledge about LL should be better than thinking that fitbone is not weight bearable while precise 2 is.
The only weight bearing nails are the obsolete guichetnail and betzbone, no else, at least for now.
Precise 2 is partially weightbearing. 150lbs in total.
Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on March 08, 2017, 07:07:20 AMBecause kaiser is a guichet fanboy, nothing new here.
Go birkholtz for femurs or catagni for tibias.
I would never go to monegal since he prefers to use fitbone for CLL without any weight bearing which is an absolute joke if you are considering breaking both of your legs.
Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on March 08, 2017, 07:07:20 AMI would never go to monegal since he prefers to use fitbone for CLL without any weight bearing which is an absolute joke if you are considering breaking both of your legs.
Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on March 08, 2017, 07:07:20 AMany
learn to read. Fitbone has barely any weight bearing(something around 10-15kgs as i remember?) so ye almost nothing.
Fitbone can handle about 22kg.
If each precise 2 nail could hold 150lb (about 70kg) then it could have considered a fully weight bearable nail.
But in every precise 2 patient's diary I read they haven't walked at all until they finished lengthening.
That proves with the most obvious way that precise 2 is not a fully weight bearing nail and patients can't walk durong lengthening so there is not any real difference compared to fitbone.
Quote from: Dr Monegal on April 25, 2015, 07:31:47 AMpeople cannot fully weigthbear. They van load 15 kg straight away after surgery
And i said 150lbs in total.
I personally weight around 140lbs so at least i wouldn't worry that much about piece of metal snaping inside my legs.
I am convinced that the weight-bearing "limits" of internal nails -at least if we are talking about precice and fitbone- depend much more on the "cautiousness" of the manufacturer than on the real physical limits of the nail.
Every fitbone patient I talked to said they have stood unaided while lengthening, even those who did bilateral. Obviously, you can not walk unaided (although some patients who did two-stage procedures have took some steps towards the end of the lengthening phase) but a non-faulty nail will not bend/break if you simply apply half of your weight on it.
Quote from: Bohemia on September 27, 2015, 05:26:37 PMThe Fitbone can sustain weight *far greater* than it says. The German engineers specifically minimize the guaranteed weight in writing because they wish to avoid users doing absurdities like jumping and running—one dipcrap went alpine skiing like one month post-procedure in the past and bent them. Apparently, the metal nails themselves pose no threat, but rather the screws can loosen in their holes a little.
I can walk and stand and I feel strong—but no matter who you are, if you do bi-femural with Dr. Monegal you will be relegated to a wheelchair for at least a month simply on principle of safety. And the wheelchair becomes second nature within a day.
*inb4 the samefagging troll pops in to say he has seen millions of broken fitbones, very bad cases, etc*
You deluded troll. Some nails broke down. Musixmaker's leg snapped in half. Paco's nail was bent and leg got deformed. Other guy got his nail broken and bent. Many people had loose screws. Many nails stopped working. You can ask. It's true.
At your starting height, my suggestion, FWIW, is internal femurs. As far as the docs you listed, Dr. Birkholtz, hands down. As I said in another thread, if time zone were not a factor, Dr. Birkholtz would be my first choice.
Best of luck!!
Quote from: jbc on March 09, 2017, 01:08:34 AMAt your starting height, my suggestion, FWIW, is internal femurs. As far as the docs you listed, Dr. Birkholtz, hands down. As I said in another thread, if time zone were not a factor, Dr. Birkholtz would be my first choice.
Best of luck!!
Thank you jbc. I was thinking that as well. Hopefully I get really lucky and end up avoiding complications that many on here end up getting.
In fact, it seems that just about everyone on here has gotten complications :/
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