Installing height- Programdude's Precice 2 Internal femurs with Dr. Paley

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I especially loved the part where you said Paley has a lot of patients do this and how it's getting bigger. As it gets more well known, it'll be less embarrassing to hide from others (I honestly don't think it should be embarrassing at all, and you can bet if I ever do have it done, I WILL let my girlfriend know). Who knows, maybe someday LL will be just as common and accepted as every other cosmetic procedure that people get and don't think anything of it.

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Its only as big a deal as you make it. I don't want to be known as "that guy who got cosmetic surgery", sure, but I haven't flinched in telling those close to me about it. Not to mention I told a lot of girls there in florida about it, and a couple locally and it doesn't stop their enthusiasm.

If you are insecure about it and don't own it then it might not go so well though.

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Quote from: Tylerdurden389 on August 04, 2015, 07:42:49 PMI especially loved the part where you said Paley has a lot of patients do this and how it's getting bigger. As it gets more well known, it'll be less embarrassing to hide from others (I honestly don't think it should be embarrassing at all, and you can bet if I ever do have it done, I WILL let my girlfriend know). Who knows, maybe someday LL will be just as common and accepted as every other cosmetic procedure that people get and don't think anything of it.

I personally think the future of CLL is more bleak. As the legit doctors retire there probably won't be as many safe options to choose from, and the ones left will jack up the price because the demand will be higher. Then you'll get joint replacement surgeons with barely any specialty training doing botch jobs on people and the reputation of the surgery will decline further as more and more people need repeat surgeries for corrections. The stigma will stay, imo.

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There will always be stigma to cosmetic surgeries. Other than braces there is basically nothing that isn't looked down on to some extent, be it hair transplants, breast implants, nose jobs, etc.

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Quote from: programdude on August 04, 2015, 05:50:11 PMNo problem! Between the pain killers and lack of sleep some parts of the diary are definitely embarrassing but I'm glad I did it and like to think its a thorough idea of what to expect from this process.

Still haven't read back over the thread, but I am sure it will be interesting to say the least.

Sometimes I look back and honestly don't know how I did this all. There are so many components to it all, and thats not even accounting for the crazy amount of money or fear one could have, neither of which were an issue for me fortunately(the former was still hard to swallow). To have gone from short, to almost bed ridden, to a gimp, and now just simply tall to the untrained eye is wild. And the funniest thing is that if you do it well and discretely, pretty much no one will know what you've been through. I look forward to being 100% once the trauma from the legs goes away. I've definitely considered writing a book/starting a resource website since I remember how overwhelmed and lost I felt going into this, and know having a friend or guide would have made it all easier.

This would be great, especially for someone like me would is heavily considering following in your footsteps and doing internal femurs with Dr.Paley. Any and all advice from you would be a great relief for me and anyone else. With that in mind I do have an abundance of questions to ask you but I feel those would be best reserved for months later considering my biggest worries with CLL have always been the long term effects on my body more than anything. But for now I have just two simple questions:
1) In terms of recovery how would 5-6CM in height be in terms of recovery?
2) Thus far how are your muscles holding up to this change? Any do you think you might ever be better?
Thanks m8

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I would guess two or three months to be mostly recovered from 5 CM of lengthening.

My muscles are filling in, but because they keep getting trauma and I can't work them out properly they are lagging a bit, and also because they are long it takes longer for it to show. I doubt as far as muscular performance and appearance I am or will be better than ever, though with enough training it will look great.

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Quote from: programdude on August 04, 2015, 09:09:25 PMThere will always be stigma to cosmetic surgeries. Other than braces there is basically nothing that isn't looked down on to some extent, be it hair transplants, breast implants, nose jobs, etc.

Agreed. But the stigma for cosmetic surgeries is far, far worse for men. As men, we're expected to "hit the gym" and "be confident (24/7/365)." That is why there are tons of beauty aids (makeup, push-up bras, high heels) for women, and none of that for men (aside maybe from certain clothes and workout routines lol).

I totally own the fact that I did LL to the select friends that I told. But I definitely will not be telling future women about it.

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Quote from: Tylerdurden389 on August 04, 2015, 07:42:49 PMI especially loved the part where you said Paley has a lot of patients do this and how it's getting bigger. As it gets more well known, it'll be less embarrassing to hide from others (I honestly don't think it should be embarrassing at all, and you can bet if I ever do have it done, I WILL let my girlfriend know). Who knows, maybe someday LL will be just as common and accepted as every other cosmetic procedure that people get and don't think anything of it.

I actually managed to sleep for 8 hours (from 11-3 then 4-8) last night. 14 days post-op. Hopefully this'll continue and my journey will go by much smoother.

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Feeling well, but have pain in my left upper femur now.. presumably from removal so hopefully it subsides. Has been making things tricky for physical activities but I can still function... Just doesn't feel great. Bones are supposed to be healed and all that by 6 week mark, so if not resolved by then I will be concerned, but hoping for the best.

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How is the pain? Is it tolerable?  Do you have any lingering pain from the procedure with rods inside and removed from leg? Do you know of anybody with long term repercussions from the LL?