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Posted on Nov 27, 2015, 11:02 pm
#511

Quote from: Deads on November 27, 2015, 05:35:36 PMIf you had enough money to play with you should have done the smaller amount over two portions.. I thought being a model and all that you would be anal about your proportions.

I've always been curious about this. I thought the average height for a male model was 6'2 yet Programdude was apparently doing modelling at 5'8?

Is there a different area of modelling for guys who are that height? One of my old flatmates did male modelling was 5'11 and told me he was one of the
shortest guys at his agency. What sort of modelling did you do Programdude?

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Posted on Nov 27, 2015, 11:15 pm
#512

Quote from: theuprising on November 27, 2015, 11:02:39 PMI've always been curious about this. I thought the average height for a male model was 6'2 yet Programdude was apparently doing modelling at 5'8?

Is there a different area of modelling for guys who are that height? One of my old flatmates did male modelling was 5'11 and told me he was one of the
shortest guys at his agency. What sort of modelling did you do Programdude?

I guess a shorter guy could be in a magazine for clothing or something that only required being photographed. Catwalk models are traditionally taller.

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Posted on Nov 28, 2015, 4:09 pm
#513

Who cares guys. Models can come in all sizes. Especially fitness models. Look on Instagram there are tall dudes modeling and short ripped guys with just as much sponsors. Big world out there. It's not just runway modeling.

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Posted on Dec 2, 2015, 11:50 pm
#514

About my insurance: It is generally very good. My theory is that perhaps they thought it was something that was non essential or that the hospital gave me the option to transfer myself another way. My insurance paid plenty for my hospital stay in NYC, even my medications for my lengthening procedure- So unless this is the MOST expensive ambulance ever I think there has to be a misunderstanding there... Also I have a max out of pocket expense with my insurance which should protect me.

As for why two surgeries didn't appeal to me: Insane expenses and opportunity costs lost. It would basically be 400k between the costs and time lost. The scarring is already pretty significant with femurs, though not awful. Tibia has even more scars plus they would be all up and down your legs.. its just too much. Also there is very bad complications and takes even more time to heal. Would it be nice to have done conservative amounts and have perfect proportions? Absolutely. But my proportions look normal now that I have some meat on my legs. Other than when I was less muscled in the legs and a girl was attempting a ridiculous position that involved me on my knees and her lower body in the air with her back against the bed- I've never had a comment on the length of my legs.

As far as my aesthetics I can't stress enough I have only had good feedback and am satisfied. I did well with women before but now they are outright reverent of me. Friends and family comment on how tall I am, and respect is significant. It is because of how happy I am with that aspect of things that I am not outright angry and bitter despite how poorly recovery and everything has gone. My journal should be a testament both to the risks of and the benefits of this procedure. They only question in my mind, is knowing what I know now- would I have lengthened slightly less?

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Posted on Dec 3, 2015, 10:00 am
#515

Quote from: programdude on December 02, 2015, 11:50:20 PMAbout my insurance: It is generally very good. My theory is that perhaps they thought it was something that was non essential or that the hospital gave me the option to transfer myself another way. My insurance paid plenty for my hospital stay in NYC, even my medications for my lengthening procedure- So unless this is the MOST expensive ambulance ever I think there has to be a misunderstanding there... Also I have a max out of pocket expense with my insurance which should protect me.

As for why two surgeries didn't appeal to me: Insane expenses and opportunity costs lost. It would basically be 400k between the costs and time lost. The scarring is already pretty significant with femurs, though not awful. Tibia has even more scars plus they would be all up and down your legs.. its just too much. Also there is very bad complications and takes even more time to heal. Would it be nice to have done conservative amounts and have perfect proportions? Absolutely. But my proportions look normal now that I have some meat on my legs. Other than when I was less muscled in the legs and a girl was attempting a ridiculous position that involved me on my knees and her lower body in the air with her back against the bed- I've never had a comment on the length of my legs.

As far as my aesthetics I can't stress enough I have only had good feedback and am satisfied. I did well with women before but now they are outright reverent of me. Friends and family comment on how tall I am, and respect is significant. It is because of how happy I am with that aspect of things that I am not outright angry and bitter despite how poorly recovery and everything has gone. My journal should be a testament both to the risks of and the benefits of this procedure. They only question in my mind, is knowing what I know now- would I have lengthened slightly less?

Yeah the costs are significant over 2 surgeries. I'm thinking that going with Dr Alex Monegal will side step the cost issue. Two of his surgeries are not much more than 1 of Paleys.

My health is priceless to me. If I'm going to do a surgery that may jeopardise my health or quality of life, then I'd rather fork out the extra money to ensure I have the quickest and most successful recovery.

Also, if you do two surgeries, each individual surgery will take less time if you are lengthening less on each individual portion.. Less distraction, less tissue stretching and less overall consolidation time.

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Posted on Dec 3, 2015, 10:12 am
#516

You're not wrong. The real cost for me will be my athleticism going with my plan vs. yours. Which within reason is a sacrifice I was and am willing to make. Do I want to get back to running well? Sure. But between the extra money and the scarring I was willing to have a smaller chance of that.

Also given how bad my recovery and experience has been even with Paley, I wouldn't like to think how it would go with someone "lesser".

Not saying your plan is bad. If you are ok with the scarring, confident in your dr., and have the money, you will probably be very happy.

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Posted on Dec 3, 2015, 10:54 am
#517

Quote from: programdude on December 03, 2015, 10:12:34 AMYou're not wrong. The real cost for me will be my athleticism going with my plan vs. yours. Which within reason is a sacrifice I was and am willing to make. Do I want to get back to running well? Sure. But between the extra money and the scarring I was willing to have a smaller chance of that.

Also given how bad my recovery and experience has been even with Paley, I wouldn't like to think how it would go with someone "lesser".

Not saying your plan is bad. If you are ok with the scarring, confident in your dr., and have the money, you will probably be very happy.

I believe you said that you had the worst recovery out of several patients you knew?

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Posted on Dec 3, 2015, 2:09 pm
#518

Quote from: programdude on December 02, 2015, 11:50:20 PMAs far as my aesthetics I can't stress enough I have only had good feedback and am satisfied. I did well with women before but now they are outright reverent of me. Friends and family comment on how tall I am, and respect is significant. It is because of how happy I am with that aspect of things that I am not outright angry and bitter despite how poorly recovery and everything has gone. My journal should be a testament both to the risks of and the benefits of this procedure. They only question in my mind, is knowing what I know now- would I have lengthened slightly less?

LL is definitely a life altering experience.  Sounds like you gain in some areas while you sacrifice other areas.  Your courage is admirable because you took the plunge instead of settling for uncertainty, and "what ifs". 

I'm curious on your opinion of lengthening less..... at what point in the lengthening process would you recommend stopping?  Do you know of patients at Paley's that lengthened less and got the results you were hoping for?

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Posted on Dec 3, 2015, 6:04 pm
#519

Yes, by far of the FEMUR patients I know I did the worst. I know of females doing tibias who did worse in some ways... But my leg snapped on half- hard to beat that lol.

I know that an older patient who did only around 6 CM did significantly better than me. Around that seems to be quite safe on femurs. However its honestly mostly a gamble. I know someone who was slightly shorter than me to begin with and did the same amount to great recovery though. But you need to ask yourself at what point is it not worth all the money and pain? Would 1 inch be worth it? Certainly not. Two? Noticeable, but hardly worth the downpayment on a house, no?

The last thing I would want is for someone to go through this, and still be physically compromised, spend the money, have the scarring, but not be satisfied with the result. Because I wasnt short to begin with, maybe I would have accepted just a little over 2 inches if I knew it would be complication free and my recovery would be expedient and 100%. But I feel I wouldn't be as happy with the height as I am now, which would beg the question if it was all worth it.

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Posted on Dec 3, 2015, 9:05 pm
#520

Quote from: programdude on December 03, 2015, 06:04:36 PMBut I feel I wouldn't be as happy with the height as I am now, which would beg the question if it was all worth it.

Well I guess time will tell how your overall recovery is.. And only then will the answer become apparent to you.

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