Hey LAGrowin, glad to see you're doing better and better! Can you elaborate a little bit on how hard is it to shower? I've been wondering about this and couldn't find in any journals 
Since I have recently noticed that the number of fans of Mahboubian have suspectly (in my opinion) increased,I would suggest everyone to read those threads before making any decision:
www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=562.0
www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=23.0
Good luck to everyone
Quote from: The Dreamer on January 29, 2018, 05:00:48 PMSince I have recently noticed that the number of fans of Mahboubian have suspectly (in my opinion) increased,I would suggest everyone to read those threads before making any decision:
www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=562.0
www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=23.0
Good luck to everyone
There is a difference between people supporting the LL'ers who are going through the journey, and being a "fan of Mahboubian".
If you want to debate the efficacy of different doctors do it in those threads, let the man lengthen in peace
Quote from: The Dreamer on January 29, 2018, 05:00:48 PMSince I have recently noticed that the number of fans of Mahboubian have suspectly (in my opinion) increased,I would suggest everyone to read those threads before making any decision:
www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=562.0
www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=23.0
Good luck to everyone
although i do not like Dr. Mahboubian's business tactics, all his pts have made full recoveries
and he was trained under Dr. Rozbruch
Quote from: Zeo on January 29, 2018, 05:43:47 PMThere is a difference between people supporting the LL'ers who are going through the journey, and being a "fan of Mahboubian".
If you want to debate the efficacy of different doctors do it in those threads, let the man lengthen in peace
Thank you Zeo. Very well said.
I'm not here to promote or sell anything or anyone. I'm here to try to share my experience as many others have which I have benefited from.
My personal opinion is that if Dr. M promotes his LL practice, he has every right. It's a business after all. Look at the amount of marketing by LA's top cosmetic surgeons for breasts and butt implants, lip this, nose that. It's crazy. But it's a business. While at the office I also saw numerous patients who are being treated for non cosmetic issues and natural deformities. It's not all CLL. Anyway, only my opinion. I will not debate this issue with anyone or engage any further.
All I can say from FIRST HAND experience is that Dr. M thus far has treated me well, with courtesy, and in my opinion very professionally. Because I wanted to make sure of what I was doing, I had 3 visits with him before I decided to pull the trigger. Of course I'm local to him in LA. Never did he try to push me into surgery. He just answered all questions and said he'd see me when and if I was ready.
Now, let me lengthen in peace man!!! Lol
Peace gentlemen.
Quote from: fallen774 on January 29, 2018, 05:47:07 AMHey LAGrowin, glad to see you're doing better and better! Can you elaborate a little bit on how hard is it to shower? I've been wondering about this and couldn't find in any journals
Hi fallen774. Thank you sir. In general I'm doing better, but going through this first hand is no joke, but very doable and tolerable. Of course our bodies will react with a little bit of variance.
So today is my 12th day post op. In my opinion, for me personally, way too dangerous to try to shower yet. My legs are not strong enough but to take several steps here and there. My shower has about a 10" step to go in. It's too easy to lose my balance and fall while inside. I don't want to risk it. I have been cleaning myself with a no rinse foam hospitals give you, a hand towel and warm water. Stock up on baby wipes.
I bought a shower chair and will be using that when ready. Hopefully next week. I hate the feeling of not being able to shower but that's that.
I thought I'd be out and about on a wheel chair at the end of week 2. No way that's realistic. Maybe at the end of week 3. Maybe.
The toilet in itself has been a real pain in the ass (literally). You absolutely need a bedside commode over the toilet and you'll need pillows under your feet so that your knees lift a little and the pressure is not on the underside of your femurs.
Hopefully this all makes sense. Ask away if it doesn't.
Quote from: LAGrowin on January 30, 2018, 01:42:03 AMIt's a business after all. Look at the amount of marketing by LA's top cosmetic surgeons for breasts and butt implants, lip this, nose that. It's crazy.
No kidding. I remember seeing an Equinox lined with parked exotics right across a billboard showing a man and woman in swimsuits that read: Look Better nked! Freeze the Fat! It was the most LA juxtaposition I'd ever seen.
Quote from: LAGrowin on January 30, 2018, 01:42:03 AMMy personal opinion is that if Dr. M promotes his LL practice, he has every right. It's a business after all.
Suure,also making deals with Apotheosis in old forum is just "business",right ?
Those actions have to be remembered so I wanted to refresh a little bit...the collective memory
But why getting so defensive comrade,it was only a small jump in the past
As i said before, have a great lengthening period and good luck
Quote from: The Dreamer on January 30, 2018, 10:21:59 AMSuure,also making deals with Apotheosis in old forum is just "business",right ?
Those actions have to be remembered so I wanted to refresh a little bit...the collective memory
But why getting so defensive comrade,it was only a small jump in the past
As i said before, have a great lengthening period and good luck
I don't know apotheosis, don't need to know. I don't want to be involved in the drama that comes out in these forums. It's here and now that I care about. My surgery with Dr. M cannot be undone. I'm happy, he treated me well, and that's that. What am I selling here ? I'm sharing not selling.
If there's nothing constructive to add to this thread then let's move along. I have some lengthening to do "comrade". My energy needs to be in my recovery not BS like this.
And I just said I wouldn't engage ...... lol
Thank you. God willing.
Quote from: LAGrowin on January 30, 2018, 11:49:16 AMI don't know apotheosis, don't need to know. I don't want to be involved in the drama that comes out in these forums. It's here and now that I care about. My surgery with Dr. M cannot be undone. I'm happy, he treated me well, and that's that. What am I selling here ? I'm sharing not selling.
If there's nothing constructive to add to this thread then let's move along. I have some lengthening to do "comrade". My energy needs to be in my recovery not BS like this.
And I just said I wouldn't engage ...... lol
Thank you. God willing.
Good lol. Don't engage.
Have you met other LL patients with Dr. M? I've found that it makes the LL experience much more bearable. When I was there, the first 2-3 weeks I was being very anti social because I was feeling very lethargic from the dull pain and lack of sleep (oh btw, the lack of sleep is going to be really annoying for a few weeks). I just wanted to sit in my room and watch Netflix. After that I was in less pain and was feeling much better and sleeping much better as well. Then I started organizing happy hours with other LL-ers. We are still in touch.
Long story short, I highly recommend you meet other LLers and get their contact info and start "hanging out" once you get your bearings.
Otherwise, I hope everything is going well. You will still be in pain when going to the bathroom for a few days. Trust me it gets better. Same with the shower chair. BTW, it hurts a lot less if you don't have to dangle your legs. If you can lower the chairs it will hurt less.
I'm so glad that you are in your home city for this. That way you can have your friends and family visit too (assuming that you aren't keeping this secret from them like I am).
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