Leg Lengthening Alternative for a Quick 1-2 Inch Gain (Seriously)

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Quote from: O_99 on August 19, 2020, 10:01:50 AMWhat do you guys think about this

http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/08/Researchers-find-method-to-regrow-cartilage-in-the-joints.html

Could they possibly "overgrow" the joint size by adding cartilage volume? Hence result in a total greater leg length?

I guess something like this could be possibile. We’re talking about it here:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=j52cp6kmn6s6i7rjfb5fc0kto5&topic=65416.msg177869;topicseen#msg177869

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Any idea when this would become a real thing?

Also how much would it cost?

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Any idea when this would become a real thing?

Also how much would it cost?

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Quote from: HobbesTheDog on August 20, 2020, 06:02:36 PMAny idea when this would become a real thing?

Also how much would it cost?

I read through the patent and it seems deceptively simple. If it is as "easy" as Hyne's makes it out to be, he could probably get this working (in a prototype/proof-of-concept sense) within 1-5 years. Getting approval and bringing it to market would probably take longer though. I think the main barrier is the fact his market is mostly untested. Surgical solutions for DDD that are proactive aren't really a thing. So he'd have to convince people to open up their backs and tinker with their spines before any real issues/pain crop up. Needless to say, convincing people to undergo preventative spine surgery will be a challenge that will greatly limit the market, at least at first. And unfortunately, ROI/$ potential = how quickly something gets developed.

As far as cost? Spinal fusion is probably a reasonable cost comparison. According to Google, the average spinal fusion in the USA is between $14,000 to $26,000. Spinal fusion is a very common, tried and true procedure with decades worth of successful operations to its name, along with a mature implant market, so we have probably achieved some level of pricing efficiency after all these years with regards to this treatment.

Hyne's treatment would be brand new, with a more limited market, hopefully just at first. The people offering this treatment will probably have to keep prices high to recoup R&D costs from a small initial customer base. On top of that, we would need custom implants, which adds further to R&D costs. All in all, you could see initial costs of at least $50k to get this procedure for cosmetic purposes. 

My 2c, not an expert though.

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This looks good.

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Quote5. The method of claim 1 wherein performing the proposed stabilizing implantation treatment comprises implanting a plurality of opposing magnetic elements within the given patient's spine.
6. The method of claim 6 wherein implanting the plurality of opposing magnetic elements comprises implanting opposing regions of polymethylmethacrylate (PMMA) comprising magnetic particles of opposite polarity.
7. The method of claim 1 wherein performing the proposed stabilizing implantation treatment comprises implanting at least one metallic element between an opposing pair of vertebrae and inducing a magnetic field for causing the at least one metallic element to space apart the pair of vertebrae.
8. The method of claim 1 further comprising performing a spinal elongation procedure to elongate the given patient's spine to an elongated state before performing the proposed stabilizing implantation treatment.
9. The method of claim 8 wherein the spinal elongation procedure comprises at least one of traction, bracing, suspension, inversion, and chiropractic manipulation.

Dude this is insane. Back surgery is one of the most fked up surgeries a person can go through and has a massive probability for leaving you in chronic pain. He's talking about implanting magnets and metal devices into your spine to space out the discs. This might be worthwhile for people with degenerative discs who have severe nerve pain from pinched nerves. Because they are desperate.

For a normal person this is absolutely insane. LL is a walk in the park compared to this craziness.

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Quote from: ThickButt on August 21, 2020, 05:55:42 PMI read through the patent and it seems deceptively simple. If it is as "easy" as Hyne's makes it out to be, he could probably get this working (in a prototype/proof-of-concept sense) within 1-5 years. Getting approval and bringing it to market would probably take longer though. I think the main barrier is the fact his market is mostly untested. Surgical solutions for DDD that are proactive aren't really a thing. So he'd have to convince people to open up their backs and tinker with their spines before any real issues/pain crop up. Needless to say, convincing people to undergo preventative spine surgery will be a challenge that will greatly limit the market, at least at first. And unfortunately, ROI/$ potential = how quickly something gets developed.

As far as cost? Spinal fusion is probably a reasonable cost comparison. According to Google, the average spinal fusion in the USA is between $14,000 to $26,000. Spinal fusion is a very common, tried and true procedure with decades worth of successful operations to its name, along with a mature implant market, so we have probably achieved some level of pricing efficiency after all these years with regards to this treatment.

Hyne's treatment would be brand new, with a more limited market, hopefully just at first. The people offering this treatment will probably have to keep prices high to recoup R&D costs from a small initial customer base. On top of that, we would need custom implants, which adds further to R&D costs. All in all, you could see initial costs of at least $50k to get this procedure for cosmetic purposes. 

My 2c, not an expert though.

It has been abandoned since 2009 or so.

Anyway, yeah it doesn't look very promising if it involves surgery. Wiser thing to do is just to try to maximize your spine length with natural methods.