Just use the 5 cm lifts. What country are you from? I would say the tallest in south america are Brazil and Argentina which have heights listed at 5 7 your height.
Probably for white people it is closer to 5'9, that would make sense
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on July 21, 2017, 04:38:47 PMBut can you seriously blame yourself for this? 14-15 year olds aren't supposed to care about these things and usually have other things on their mind than the importance of height in society. Most 15 years old probably don't know what bone age or HGH is. I've been going through the same struggle, but on an objective note, a 15 year old boy isn't to blame for these things.
Besides, a 15 year old can't do much about his premature bone age, even if he knew the graveness of this problem, as far as I can see.
Well at 15 years of age I knew bone age and HGH, and it was me who told my parents I should try it. It wasn't something I should worry about for sure, but I should have had periodic paediatric controls and they would have noticed my massive balls inconsistent with my age haha. There are delicate decisions which can have a BIG impact on the future like my case.
Quote from: Body Builder on July 21, 2017, 04:48:16 PMLLsouthamerica I think that you could have easily tried for 1-1.5 cm more and be very close to 5.8 which is no big difference from 5.7 but every cm above 5.7 really matters imo.
But still you can always do 5cm more in tibias and have a respectable height, especially for s. America.
Doing 5cm more in tibias with ilizarov is really no big deal in terms of money and complications, even the time is not much (about 6 months till frame removal).
If you are not ok with your height, don't let the time pass and do it. I regret for not gathering money sooner to be able now to do my second LL and I should wait about 2 years to do it.
Still your current height has a real difference compared to your initial but if you want more, go for that.
You are a sane and down to earth person, a very good candidate for a successful LL.
Thanks man, I appreciate it. I stayed at 6 - 6.5 because Dr Guichet told me that my knees had a higher risk of dislocation because of their position and also something about a torsional problem with my quadriceps and he recommended no more than 6 cm. Also, in my research of LL, I knew a lot of people who recovered fully - almost fully but they were always no more than 5 cm lengthening.
Now, while I'm back to normal life, I've not recovered completely I haven't restart running, weight training or dancing. I've also not finished medical school. I have other ambitions and while my parents have money I won't rely on them any longer. Some day in 5 - 10 years, I may want another lengthening I would do 5 cm tibia externals and maybe concurrent fix of any traumatological complications of my first lengthening should there be any. Of course this time I will pay for it. Until then I'll enjoy my new me.
Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 21, 2017, 05:18:54 PMI have thyroid issues since i was 12yo and my uncles are 6'8 so yup. Who gives a damn doe.
Tbh worse things happened in my life.
And how tall are you? You definitely win though it is not a competition. There was nothing you could do about it unlike me. Even with replacement therapy, hypothyroidism causes short stature. On the other hand, I would not like to be 6'8.
Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on July 22, 2017, 08:19:05 PMAnd how tall are you? You definitely win though it is not a competition. There was nothing you could do about it unlike me. Even with replacement therapy, hypothyroidism causes short stature. On the other hand, I would not like to be 6'8.
Never thought about it as a competition. I just wanted to show you that you arent the only one and blaming someone won't really do much.
Hypothroidism is pretty easy to control(simple pills can maintain decent TSH levels).
5'5 living in a tall european country(5'11 is avg here). I never wanted to be 6'8 too lol but i had prediction range of 5'9 to even 6'5 since i was very tall as a kid.
Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on July 22, 2017, 08:08:24 PMWell at 15 years of age I knew bone age and HGH, and it was me who told my parents I should try it. It wasn't something I should worry about for sure, but I should have had periodic paediatric controls and they would have noticed my massive balls inconsistent with my age haha. There are delicate decisions which can have a BIG impact on the future like my case.
You told your parents to try HGH, and as I've understood, you got it? (you said you barely have any response to it). You were 15 with premature puberty and even got HGH, so my question is: what else could've been done? Massive amounts of HGH (over the doses a normal doctor would recommend) are extremely costly and not covered by any medical insurance, and surely impossible to get for a 15 year old. So in all objectiveness (and without the emotional aspect): what else is a 15 year old kid supposed to do?
Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on July 22, 2017, 08:15:23 PMThanks man, I appreciate it. I stayed at 6 - 6.5 because Dr Guichet told me that my knees had a higher risk of dislocation because of their position and also something about a torsional problem with my quadriceps and he recommended no more than 6 cm. Also, in my research of LL, I knew a lot of people who recovered fully - almost fully but they were always no more than 5 cm lengthening.
Now, while I'm back to normal life, I've not recovered completely I haven't restart running, weight training or dancing. I've also not finished medical school. I have other ambitions and while my parents have money I won't rely on them any longer. Some day in 5 - 10 years, I may want another lengthening I would do 5 cm tibia externals and maybe concurrent fix of any traumatological complications of my first lengthening should there be any. Of course this time I will pay for it. Until then I'll enjoy my new me.
Dude if your parents have money and most importantly support your ll decisions I would go for tibia latn which in russia you can get for aroud 25k total everything with barinov and lenghten 5 cm. Especially since you said you had to wait a year right to go to school. You can always be kind to your parents in the future. I wish my parents were like that. 
Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 22, 2017, 10:40:25 PMNever thought about it as a competition. I just wanted to show you that you arent the only one and blaming someone won't really do much.
Hypothroidism is pretty easy to control(simple pills can maintain decent TSH levels).
5'5 living in a tall european country(5'11 is avg here). I never wanted to be 6'8 too lol but i had prediction range of 5'9 to even 6'5 since i was very tall as a kid.
Sorry to hear that. But what I meant is that even if hypothyroidism is controlled with levothyroxine, people usually are inevitably shorter than average. Of course the longer it takes to diagnose the worse.
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on July 22, 2017, 11:17:16 PMYou told your parents to try HGH, and as I've understood, you got it? (you said you barely have any response to it). You were 15 with premature puberty and even got HGH, so my question is: what else could've been done? Massive amounts of HGH (over the doses a normal doctor would recommend) are extremely costly and not covered by any medical insurance, and surely impossible to get for a 15 year old. So in all objectiveness (and without the emotional aspect): what else is a 15 year old kid supposed to do?
Yes, I got it. I did everything a 15 year old can do and then began with my plans of LL. However, a 12 year old could have delayed his growth cartilage from closing and achieved more height gain after HGH. It's useless to put blames but history really could have gone differently.
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