They did internals in Europe, spent a big amount of money and followed the guidelines. You run the risk of being maimed in all circumstances, but it seems you don't want to be awaken from your pink-colored dreams. Go ahead!
LL hurts, mofos! You need baLLs for this
Quote from: Cloudo on August 26, 2017, 11:48:29 PMI bet that 90% of those people you are talking about either:
-Did a cheap surgery with an inexperienced/ bad doctor
-lengthened more than they should
-didn't follow the guidelines for safety and best results
your goal height is way more than you should, so you're on of those.
Quote from: backrandom on August 27, 2017, 12:11:11 AMThey did internals in Europe, spent a big amount of money and followed the guidelines. You run the risk of being maimed in all circumstances, but it seems you don't want to be awaken from your pink-colored dreams. Go ahead!
Just because they did it in Europe doesn't mean that the doctors will be as experienced and educated as Catagni, guichet or salameh. These doctors have being publishing ll researchers for decades!
Quote from: The Kaiser on August 27, 2017, 12:32:33 AMyour goal height is way more than you should, so you're on of those.
True, but I never said that I am going the safe way. The OP is talking about people who regretted ll and I am telling him why. To make it clear, do you think suicide bombers regret what they do? No because they are convinced that they will go to heaven as soon as they explode. Same for me, height is a priority, its essential in my life. It's more important than mobility(by mobility I mean being able to walk 2 km a day)
Quote from: Cloudo on August 27, 2017, 12:43:43 AMTrue, but I never said that I am going the safe way. The OP is talking about people who regretted ll and I am telling him why. To make it clear, do you think suicide bombers regret what they do? No because they are convinced that they will go to heaven as soon as they explode. Same for me, height is a priority, its essential in my life. It's more important than mobility(by mobility I mean being able to walk 2 km a day)
From what you write I understand that your mental state is not better than the one of suicide bombers.
The good thing is that you, in contrast to them, just want to harm your body and not other people.
So if you can find a doctor that would operate on you it will be of course a cheap one as you can't pass the psychology tests that good doctors have.
Also 15 cm is above the safe limit.
So in a few words, good luck with crippling yourself.
End of discussion from me.
Quote from: Body Builder on August 27, 2017, 12:49:18 AMFrom what you write I understand that your mental state is not better than the one of suicide bombers.
The good thing is that you, in contrast to them, just want to harm your body and not other people.
So if you can find a doctor that would operate on you it will be of course a cheap one as you can't pass the psychology tests that good doctors have.
Also 15 cm is above the safe limit.
So in a few words, good luck with crippling yourself.
End of discussion from me.
All of the best doctors I contacted(including catagni, guichet and salameh) told me that it will be safe to lengthen up to 8 cm in each bone. Although things might change after the surgery(depending on the patient state). That's why I said if everything goes well then I will start preparing for the femurs. Let's not forget that the amount of safe lengthening is based on the length of the bones. Since 20% of the original bone length is in the safe limits,then I should be fine with 7.5 cm hopefully.
Quote from: Cloudo on August 27, 2017, 01:04:17 AMAll of the best doctors I contacted(including catagni, guichet and salameh) told me that it will be safe to lengthen up to 8 cm in each bone. Although things might change after the surgery(depending on the patient state). That's why I said if everything goes well then I will start preparing for the femurs. Let's not forget that the amount of safe lengthening is based on the length of the bones. Since 20% of the original bone length is in the safe limits,then I should be fine with 7.5 cm hopefully.
Guichet is very unethical and catagni reccomends atl so I dont know how good their word is. But you are right about bone length if there is no complications then you should be okay.
Quote from: Bander72 on August 27, 2017, 06:40:59 AMGuichet is very unethical and catagni reccomends atl so I dont know how good their word is. But you are right about bone length if there is no complications then you should be okay.
Guichet is a commercial doctor unfortunately, but he is good. Catagni is probably the nicest ll doctor I have spoken too, and he isn't commercial at all, in fact he tries to push you away from the surgery. When it comes to ll researches and long time experience, no one comes close to Catagni and paley. I haven't spoken to paley, but I read a lot about him and his publications. Salameh is really nice too, although he doesn't have the same experience, nevertheless, his work is really clean. And ya Catagni does recommend atl, probably because he saw a lot of complications with patients who didn't do it. I am probably going to do external Tibias with salameh/Catagni, femurs with paley probably.
You had LL done so It's quite funny the way you are criticising a man who want's the same thing. Also did you not say that you want to get yet another LL done ina few years? I'm gonna get a ton of hate for this but I'm going to state yet again that APO did 20+ cm and the mans jogging faster than I ever could in a lifetime. He is a cun*#t but still achieved his goal.
Quote from: backrandom on August 26, 2017, 11:38:30 PMNot all patients think the same. For many it was the worst decision in their lives. I've met a bunch of them in this forum.
Pretty sure they regretted the doctor choice not the procedure itself.
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