LL Nightmare in Barcelona

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And how you can prove that someone have 100% success? Opt for a better ones with more successful cases

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Please can we not resort to calling people fake and trolls in their own diaries.  Your own diary should be a place where you can express freely and be given the benefit of the doubt like others here. I agree some trolls have gone too far, but notatroll is doing what he has been advised to do, and what I would personally prefer him to do, which is to write about his experience in his own diary.  And he should be able to do that without fear of attack.  This is somewhere, where most of us have a common goal.  To share knowledge and use that knowledge to help current and pre LL’s.  If in the future, people feel they cannot post their experiences for fear of being attacked, then we will have lost a really good resource of information.  Let all cards be laid on the table without fear of attack, and people can then do their research and due diligence to come to their own conclusions about which path would be best for them.

Thank you for listening.

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Quote from: Bushguy on May 13, 2018, 02:40:06 PMYou said you didnt have complications, but others yes.
Can you tell us the name of a doctor with 100% succes?

No doctors with 100% success but there are doctors with better success rate. I didn't have big complications. Only discomfort and knee pain and I think I will be an old man when 40 y.o. Other patients had big complications that required major surgeries but they haven't posted here. I will post about me and things I don't like in Barcelona.

Quote from: Petite888 on May 13, 2018, 04:17:15 PMPlease can we not resort to calling people fake and trolls in their own diaries.  Your own diary should be a place where you can express freely and be given the benefit of the doubt like others here. I agree some trolls have gone too far, but notatroll is doing what he has been advised to do, and what I would personally prefer him to do, which is to write about his experience in his own diary.  And he should be able to do that without fear of attack.  This is somewhere, where most of us have a common goal.  To share knowledge and use that knowledge to help current and pre LL’s.  If in the future, people feel they cannot post their experiences for fear of being attacked, then we will have lost a really good resource of information.  Let all cards be laid on the table without fear of attack, and people can then do their research and due diligence to come to their own conclusions about which path would be best for them.

Thank you for listening.

You told me not to write in Mars' diary but you also tell Monegal's trolls not to post here. That's fair and I kindly appreciate it. Everybody deserves the benefit of doubt. I think people like you deserve the truth and I will post my opinion about LL with this doctor.

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I can't stand that bunch of users defending Monegal blindly. They're an army of trolls (same as Lluser and Mr Sarcastic, that they criticize). Let notatroll talk. He seems knowledgeable. I don't know why I should trust Musicmaker or Cinderella or PatientPrivacy or Auron more than notatroll. Perhaps they are Monegal himself as many people here think. All should be given the benefit of doubt of course.

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According to my experience where there's smoke there's a fire. The whole cosmetic LL scene is extremely shady and most of the doctors who did it in the past were crooks. Most European countries have very unfair laws with regard to patient protection, since the burden of proof is 100% on the patient, but all the evidence is in the hands of the doctors and can easily be manipulated by them. Therefore these European doctors don't have a high risk in case something happens to the patient and take the patient's risk very lightly.
These doctors are very arrogant and want to take credit only for the good outcomes and blame the patients for the bad outcomes.
I don't know Dr. M.personally but the whole discussion here shows a pattern familiar from other LL doctors.

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I dont know personally  monegal, i cant say he is good or bad, but i have read some diaries from him with good succes,and others like Cooper. Its clear that something happen, but people who defend and attack this doctor like this was a yihad  doesnt help future patients, facts is the only thing we can trust, so before attack someone or defend someone bring some evidences of what you say,

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Dr. Monegal will charge you the same price for internal lengthening as Dr. Giotikas in Greece, Dr. Birkholtz in South Africa, or Dr. Parihar in India. The difference is that Dr. Monegal uses a garbage nail and cripples you for life. The other doctors use a great nail and return you to fully functional, just taller.

It's sad how desperate people are to still have surgery with this lunatic quack Dr. Monegal, when there are so many better options for the same price, on of them is right there in Europe for patients who don't want to travel overseas.

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Quote from: Auron on May 13, 2018, 02:16:51 PMNo one wants your name or pennis size or whatever details you are talking about, we could care less. Besides, the doctor would never damage his career just to leak a random wanderers name. You make zero sense. But you managed to point out everything that Llusers account have been saying, congratulations.

Now, do you have anything to say that Lluser has not said yet hundreds of times?


You sound like a child and like youre trying to protect Monegal. Obviously biased.

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Thanks for your input guys. I didn't get complications but my friends in Barcelona did and Monegal didn't do anything about them. I'm writing here to let possible prospective patients know the truth about me and the situation and facilities there.

For me the main problem is knee pain. I'm out of my wheelchair but my gait isn't normal yet (2 years post op) and I can't run. I can't bend my legs properly. Besides I have lost height post op. This is quite sad. I did this to be taller but I'm not tall enough yet. So I am still short and I will be a short old man when I'm forty. My experience in Barcelona wasn't good. Monegal didn't pay more attention to me when he got his money and he used to threaten me about not posting this forum. He has a bad personality and lots of EGO. The facilities aren't that nice for the price you pay. They are too expensive for the service you get. The staff barely speak English. You feel completely helpless until you meet some LL friends if you are lucky (some people had to lengthen alone).

Other patients who lengthened with me had complications with hardware, fractures, misalignments and nerve damage. The worst about these complications... the attitude of the doctor. He never accepted his fault. According to him patients got nerve damage because they lengthened too much (false), patients fell down and fractured (false), patients got misalignment because they walked too early (false). My Fitbone nail worked but in other patients' cases it didn't. Patients were scared because the nail stopped working... and then came back. In other cases it never came back as Musicmaker or Helloworld. The doctor always blamed them and invented stories about alien skin but it was the hardware.

My LL experience was a nightmare I'll never forget. I'm traumatized. It was hard for me but more for my friends. When you see a succesful Ivy League man crying in pain you know this is far from easy. The friendly guy who committed suicide was a succesful lawyer. And then there was the famous Musicmaker with her endless complications and sadness in her eyes. I never talked to them again but when I think about his death and her outraged beauty I feel like crying, me too.

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You are 100% right. Did you also get the fake PT?