Quote from: microman on June 09, 2015, 02:15:08 AMkind of hard to decide between mitkovic or barinov using ilazarov
what would you think Descreteuser, would you say the risk of misalingment isn't worth it and to stick with barinov, or is there some reason to choose mitkovic over barinov.
i dont know anything about barinov.. all i can say is if you are doing less than 6cm than you will be fine with this device. you will probably get mis alignments but they are easily fixed and the doctor will make sure you are satisfied.. you may go through some stress along the way but the thing is you will be better off then i was as you will have more information handed down to you. ive always got alot of satisfaction helping and teaching people so if you did do it with him i would be more than happy to guide you through as i feel i know this device and process like the back of my hand.
My Experience So Far- External Monolateral - Dr Mitkovic
hmmm, but wasn't there some arguments of sorts between you and mitkovic about the misalingments, didn't he say he said it would be okay, but then you said you wanted to go down a more complicated process to fix it for good?
am i right in saying that bump has entirely gone now?
I think i would prefer to stay in hospital or a clinic for lengthening with barinov instead of a hotel as you would with mitkovic, but I will keep him in my list of possiblities.
I think the ilazarov device does look very large and such but then you wont get misalingments, overall im not sure how much it would bother me to have frames that large, i guess it would be bad during consolodation while at home because i would have to try and move in cruthes with those things on.
visa wise i am happy with either, its not a big deal for me to fill in a few forms or travel to london for my fingerprints, i'd rather base my decision on more important things like aftercare and device type, after looking on visa websites, it appears i don't need one at all for 90 days stay, looking at extending that it appears you need to visit a police station before hand, how exactly would you do this, would mitkovic go with you as I don't speak serbian.
If you wish to extend your stay in Serbia you will need to apply for temporary residence status at least 30 days before the 90 day period expires at the police station where you are registered
Quote from: ewf on June 09, 2015, 02:24:30 AMThank you very much for clearing that up. So it sounds like we're looking at a 6 month time-frame.
I had no idea you were so tall to begin with. It's very positive to hear that you're 4 cm taller than me, and Dr Mitkovic had no reservations about taking you on as a patient.
Until I read your posts, I didn't feel that LL would be financially viable for me for at least another year or two, but seeing your positive posts on this very affordable doctor has forced me to confront whether or not I really want to go through with this. It's quite a lot to take on board.
To me, getting a minimum of 6 cm feels like it's hard-wired into my mind. I understand that allot of those who wish to undergo two surgeries for maximal gain rarely ever go through with the second LL op. So I think it's important that I do get to 183 cm (6 ft) tall with my initial surgery.
At an above average starting height of 181 cm, I'd like to know what made you finally decide to got through with the surgery? Also, do you mind if I ask your age?
I do apologize for hijacking your thread. You've been unbelievably helpful. Thanks!
its important that you weigh up the fact whether being 183 compared to 182 is going to mean alot more to you. after 5cm every half centimetre is a big hassle. Another user from this forum did 6cm with this device and im probably almost ahead of him progress wise even tho he started 4 months before me. i stopped at 4cm because it was alot safer, and it would take me to a height that i am very satisfied with. so i believe i was smart for not being greedy.. i could have easily done another half centimetre to be exactly 6'1 but the thing is i didnt need to.. no one would ever question me if i said i was 6'1 same as noone would every question you if you were 182 and said you were 6 foot. if i was you and chose this device. i would do 5cm and no more. but if getting to 183 means that much to you, than just be willing to add another couple of months to your recovery.. at the end of the day 2 months more isnt much if its going to make you 100% satisfied with your height. remember a few years down the track this process will be all but a distant memory.
I know im 164.5 but I am only planning 5cm to 169.5, I am happy to wear a little lift to get ouf of the short zone (which is 170cm and under), and i have no intention of a 2nd height surgery.
I guess another downside is if resurgery is required you have to pay for it, with barinov he will not charge extra.
do you know if the mitkovic device is less painful than ilazarov, I have also heard that the first night the pain is very bad with ilazarov, can mitkovic knock you out if the pain gets very bad on the first night.
Hi Descreteuser, I m happy for u that the alignment is fixed and it's off ur mind. 
Quote from: microman on June 09, 2015, 03:28:41 AMhmmm, but wasn't there some arguments of sorts between you and mitkovic about the misalingments, didn't he say he said it would be okay, but then you said you wanted to go down a more complicated process to fix it for good?
am i right in saying that bump has entirely gone now?
I think i would prefer to stay in hospital or a clinic for lengthening with barinov instead of a hotel as you would with mitkovic, but I will keep him in my list of possiblities.
I think the ilazarov device does look very large and such but then you wont get misalingments, overall im not sure how much it would bother me to have frames that large, i guess it would be bad during consolodation while at home because i would have to try and move in cruthes with those things on.
visa wise i am happy with either, its not a big deal for me to fill in a few forms or travel to london for my fingerprints, i'd rather base my decision on more important things like aftercare and device type, after looking on visa websites, it appears i don't need one at all for 90 days stay?
what happened with me is the doctor was saying hed fix it but i didnt want any more stress put on me thats why i was trying to get away without fixing as long as it had no impact on my functionality. but after thinking about it i thought id be stupid not to have it fixed so thats when he came back in and fixed it properly.
visa wise, my hotel owner provides a free service where he drives you to the border to get you passport stamped. you just do that every 3 months and thats solves any visa problems. you just have to pay for the petrol which is like 30 euro.
Quote from: microman on June 09, 2015, 03:35:49 AMI know im 164.5 but I am only planning 5cm to 169.5, I am happy to wear a little lift to get ouf of the short zone (which is 170cm and under), and i have no intention of a 2nd height surgery.
I guess another downside is if resurgery is required you have to pay for it, with barinov he will not charge extra.
do you know if the mitkovic device is less painful than ilazarov, I have also heard that the first night the pain is very bad with ilazarov, can mitkovic knock you out if the pain gets very bad on the first night.
mitkovic device isnt that painful at all. the first week is a bit tender but because your in hospital then they provide you with pain killers whenever you need. lizarov fram would be much more painful as pins penetrate the muscle. but dont worry about physical pain.. mental stress is the worst part.
Quote from: bluebarbie on June 09, 2015, 03:36:01 AMHi Descreteuser, I m happy for u that the alignment is fixed and it's off ur mind.
thankyou
okay that's good to hear it is less painful, does mitkovic offer to knock you out during the surgery or are you awake? do you need blood tests as well, just tryign to get all the information i need.
is serbia wall sockets the same as UK, or do you need adapter,what about wifi for changing flight times, do you get that free in hotel or do you buy a stick.
for misalingment you kind of implied that the doctor was saying it wasn't a problem, and you were saying it was...anyway.
is there any pictures of the device in broad daylight, from your point of view on looking down on it.
similar to this picture, which is with barinov.
Quote from: Descreteuser on June 09, 2015, 03:31:44 AMits important that you weigh up the fact whether being 183 compared to 182 is going to mean alot more to you. after 5cm every half centimetre is a big hassle. Another user from this forum did 6cm with this device and im probably almost ahead of him progress wise even tho he started 4 months before me. i stopped at 4cm because it was alot safer, and it would take me to a height that i am very satisfied with. so i believe i was smart for not being greedy.. i could have easily done another half centimetre to be exactly 6'1 but the thing is i didnt need to.. no one would ever question me if i said i was 6'1 same as noone would every question you if you were 182 and said you were 6 foot. if i was you and chose this device. i would do 5cm and no more. but if getting to 183 means that much to you, than just be willing to add another couple of months to your recovery.. at the end of the day 2 months more isnt much if its going to make you 100% satisfied with your height. remember a few years down the track this process will be all but a distant memory.
I have to agree with you that there is very little difference between 182 cm and 183 cm, but it's peace of mind, and I just don't feel I could be satisfied if I invested the best part of a year into this and didn't hit that seemingly magical 6'0 milestone 
I have no commitments and time really isn't a factor to me, and I think the whole experience would give me some time to get away and clear my mind. My only real concern is having good internet access while I'm away so that I can continue to work. Gym access would be great, but that may be a little too ambitious.
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