Hello everyone,
I am almost done but I wanted to share my experiences about my LL with you. First my personal key facts:
Age: 32, Male
Starting height: 162,5 cm
Wingspan: 161 cm
Weight: 79kg before surgery (afterwards I came up to 75 kg)
no health issues and I am in a normal sport shape with regard to flexibility
Goal: 10-10 cm in femur
I had my surgery end of April 2022 and got a 11 Betzbone nail. It was my first surgery at all but I was positively surprised from the pain level. The clicking was painful at the beginning but I was able to handle it, if I have taken the painkillers 1-2 hours before. Overall I was on a normal painkiller level, Dr. Betz said. I used Novalgin (3xday), Tramadol (2xday) and Pregabalin (2xday) as I have got some nerve pains quite early. This might was my fault as I have speed-up the clicking rate very fast to 22 (4th day) and this might have triggered my nerve to much. However, I was two weeks in the hospital before I went back at home in Germany. I have done 18-20 clicks the first 3 cm and reduced afterwards the clicking rate to 15 till today. Overall, I had a kind of break even point after 3-4 cm where the clicking turned out very smoothly and more and more painless.
I am now at day 100 
lengthened 8,7 cm and reduced my painkillers to a minimum (Novalgin only). I did get a bad duck ass in the meantime but I was able to improve it, so that I would say I have a slight duck ass right now. So far I am not suffering from any wide legs. As already mentioned by others Dr. Betz is doing the surgery together with Dr. Becker who is likely to become his successor. Both were/are great and were always available for me during the hospital time and afterwards. I was personally flashed by the engagement of Dr. Betz as during my surgery week Daniela (his assistant) got sick and as I have been in St. Ingbert, he had to handle everything alone but however he came and visited me every day. Afterwards I got in closer contact with Dr. Becker who is also absolutely responsive via WhatsApp and usually provides you a prompt answers (on Sunday, too!). They mean that I should get recovered fully from my slight duck ass as soon as the bone hailing has been completed (of course under the premise of intensive stretching). I personally didn't get done the IT release.
That's how it looks like now: https://imgur.com/a/7JpJD3n
If everything went well, I should receive 10 cm in two weeks. Up from there I will re-evaluate, if I should go further or not due to the proportions but I assume that this might gonna be ok as I had quite short legs before. Of course the femur/tibia ratio will not be good but I still look good in short pants, so I hope this additional 2,7 cm will not screw up everything...
I would be interested, if anyone suffered a similiar duck ass and got fully recovered out of it?
Let me know, if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Taller90
Quote from: we.live.once on August 06, 2022, 11:57:44 AMcongratulations.
If I would have enough money, I would also choose Dr. Betz.
Can you drive a car by the moment?
Thanks!
I have sold my car two weeks before surgery and honestly I am regretting it right now because yes I would be able to drive a car at the moment.
Quote from: boklecrt on August 06, 2022, 12:01:41 PMcongratulations man your legs look very masculine and massive now
bet you will be very happy when all is said and done
how much did you pay for the surgery?
does your family know?
who has been helping you out with daily stuff or after you left the hospital you were on your own all this time in order to hide the surgery?
also, is it going to be too much of a trouble if you shoot a quick video of how you do a click?
Thanks! I told my parents directly after I have done the surgery but only because they would have been worrying much more than me about it. Now they are my biggest supporter and visit me once a week always checking how much size I have achieved 
I have only informed my best friend about the surgery before and he was also the one who picked me up at the hospital after the two weeks. I live alone and had to handle my daily stuff at home alone which was indeed a bit difficult but feasible, if you have time and are fully motivated into it.
Luckily, I was able to take a paid leave from my work so that I had the time to focus on my recovery and organizing my daily life around it. I also live in a bigger city in Germany, so that I do my weekly grocery shopping online or go with the metro and a small bag to the next super market for smaller stuff. I took the bus and metro also for the way to the gym which I am visiting 5-6 times per week. As we have already started with muscle training in the hospital - I think it was from the 4th day - and Dr. Betz told us to continue with the gym (5-6x week) and physiotherapy (4-5x week) in addition to his stretching exercises, I think this might was the reason why my muscles came back in the meantime. I have lost a lot of muscles due to the surgery, in particular when it comes to the muscles around the hip (gluteal muscles). At the beginning, I was not able to raise my leg when I was on my side. Now this is working again very well.
I can strongly recommend everyone to take as much physiotherapy as possible in the first weeks. You might not need it strongly but it will help your recovery very much and help you to handle the remaining swelling, muscles hardening and pain. I have noticed that sauna, aqua walking and Jacuzzi were very good for me as well. Luckily, I was already a member of a good gym which already had this facilities too, so that I have linked it to my training 2-3 times per week. In particular the mix of warm and cold from a good sauna session were very good for me (but you need to know, that I have already visited the the sauna on a regular basis before).
I will try to get this video done in the upcoming days.
The costs of the surgery are listed transparently on the homepage of Dr. Betz https://www.betzinstitute.com. Just have a quick look there.
Quote from: we.live.once on August 06, 2022, 09:18:22 PMI am also living alone in Germany, but in a very small village. Maybe for my second surgery I wil have enough money to choose Dr. Betz.
Can't you make homeoffice?
Now, I would be able to do homeoffice but at the beginning it would have been very difficult to work 8 Hours even at home, if you want to do all of Dr. betzs instructions. One hour PT, one hour gym, 3-5 times stretching (which usually Takes 1 hour as well) will keep you busy the most of your day. At the beginning I have needed about 1 hour for 18-20 klicks on both legs. Now, I am done in five minutes
So if you want to work you will need to do less and this will probably effect your recovery time
Quote from: Limbfan2020 on August 06, 2022, 11:23:44 PMCongrats, Taller90! Keep strong!
Who performed the surgery? Betz, Becker or both?
Both
Quote from: Limbfan2020 on August 07, 2022, 09:40:51 AMWhat's ur impression on Dr. Becker?
He is excellent from a service perspective, that means he is nearly always available via WhatsApp and provides you easy going but detailed answers. So far, I also didnt had any point to doubt the quality of his medical advice. Of course he does not have the same experience like Dr. Betz but first he is a qualified Plastic and Trauma surgeon, secound he is assisting Dr. Betz since three years at every surgery which means that he might have already done more than 300 CLL under the supervision of Dr. Betz and this is by far a lot. Finally Dr. Betz is always there as well, so this all together put me as Patient in a good feeling.
Quote from: boklecrt on August 06, 2022, 12:01:41 PMcongratulations man your legs look very masculine and massive now
bet you will be very happy when all is said and done
how much did you pay for the surgery?
does your family know?
who has been helping you out with daily stuff or after you left the hospital you were on your own all this time in order to hide the surgery?
also, is it going to be too much of a trouble if you shoot a quick video of how you do a click?
I have remembered that there is also a video of the clicking on Dr. Betz homepage (Part of his Promotion clip on the website). However there is also another one in youtube from another patient.
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The clicking is starting at 1,20 minutes of the video and I am doing it right now exactly like the guy is doing it in the video.
Quote from: we.live.once on August 08, 2022, 06:15:32 PMThank you for your answer. Do you think how long after the operation, it would be possible to work homeoffice totally 8 hours per day.
I mean not 8 hours in one part.
For example, working totally 1+1+1+1+0.5...=8 hours per day
Ich meine zwischendurch mach ich Pause wegen der OP.
Hope you could understand what I mean
Probably from day 1, if you split your working time flexible Cross the day and you dont go to a gym or have a real close one and have some help for your home stuff. At the beginning, I have needed 1 hour for the clicking, and 3-4 x 1hour stretching. That's the minimum you should do. The remaining time/work is up to you.
Day 103 / 1620 Klicks / 9,024 cm
Today I have reached the 9 cm The final goal of 10-11 cm isn't far anymore.
Here is an update how my current proportions look like and I would be happy to get your opinion about continuing with lengthening on:
a) +1cm = 10cm in total
b) +2cm = 11cm in total
https://imgur.com/a/uQONPSs
Thanks for any view on this.
I have done xRays last week and they still look good with a good performing callus. I am nearly painless - only some tightness in the right gluteus and IT Band which could be hopefully fixed by stretching after the clicking phase. My walking on crutches looks good and I can also walk without crutches a couple of meter but with the respective duck ass. I am so looking forward to the end of the clicking, when I can start with the real rehabilitation and stretching/working on my gait....
Finally I wanted to let you know, that I have done some very well experiences with an old Chinese technique calling "cupping" or in German: Schröpfen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schröpfen. My PT hast tried it against my IT band pain which I had sometimes during the lengthening and he has used it also for my back and it has worked very well for me.
Quote from: we.live.once on August 10, 2022, 03:12:53 PMhow many days did you use till you could do 18-20 klicks in 5 minutes?
It took a while… I think it was 4 weeks but Betz told me also before that after 3 or 4 weeks everything will go more smoothly (sleeping, clicking) and he was right.
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